Barrera never really integrated his boxing and brawling well imo. He still fits though, just not among the effortless elite.
Any thoughts on a peak Holyfield or a Liston, both of whom were competent at range and up close, for my money?
Sure, I think Holyfield was more well rounded though. He had the hand speed, footwork, athletic ability, and overall skill to do it all. Holyfield didn't have a jab on the level with Ali, Holmes, Foreman, Bowe, Lewis, Liston, and some others but it wasn't bad.
Listons a good shout and what i thought of for heavies.....i was watching the Terrell sparring footage on youtube the other day and he shows a lot of skills there, even looks Toneyish at times.