Fighters Who Had A Superior Fighters Number

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  1. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Thats horse****. It was a blatant cheap shop (a tactic Tua used often when he was behind). Rahman schooled Tua in both of their fights and was robbed both times.
     
  2. Stevie G

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    Not really sure if this one meets with the criteria of the thread. It was always,and would always be,close between Ali and Norton. The second fight in particular could have gone either way.
     
  3. sas6789

    sas6789 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought Toney clearly beat Griffin both times.
     
  4. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I completely disagree. How was it a cheap shot? It wasn't.
    Tua in the next round just showed his warrior spirit and heart by completely overwhelming the much bigger Rahman against the ropes. He landed many hard clean punches on Rahman staggering him badly with 2 and half mins left in the round. Rahman wasn't throwing back, the stoppage while a little early was fair given the context. The second fight was very close, Lederman had Tua down by only one point at the end of 11 and after watching it again I think Tua pulled the 12th out. The draw was fair.

    Again 0-1-1 is not having a guy's number.
     
  5. Jester

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    Barkley-Hearns and Saddler-Pep are the ones that spring to mind for me.
     
  6. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Whatever man, he clearly hit Rahman after the bell. There was no "I was already throwing it" the bell had actually rung three times in quick succession and THEN Tua winds up and hits Rahman. It was blatant and as I said Tua used that tactic more than once in his career. Nevermind that you have a ten second warning which makes that inexcusible. There was no extra time to recover or anything. When a guy (Rahman) is dominating and thats the only way Tua can win thats ownage and its a bull**** stoppage. The second fight was just a friggin robbery. It was closer on points than the first but still a clear victory for Rahman. However, I will agree that these two fights dont really meet the criteria for this post because I fail to see how Tua was a superior fighter to Rahman.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

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    That's a great choice.
     
  8. Saintpat

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    Lee Ramage against Joe Louis.

    He was the only guy who Louis could only ever have beaten by KO.
     
  10. grumpy old man

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    Big George sure had Smokin Joe's number.

    (I'm not actually suggesting Joe was superior. Should have read the thread title better. Shouldn't I)
     
  11. ForemanJab

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    I think you are talking about the knockdown after the bell in the second fight that you actually said should have counted. Tua's shot was basically landing a fraction of a second after the bell and he wound up right at the bell. Rahman wasn't cheated out of anything. The stoppage in the first fight was debatable but not unfair or unusual and the second fight could have gone either way, like I said before Lederman had Tua down by only one point going into the last round where it is quite reasonable to score the last round a Tua round so a draw is understandable.

    The poster shouldn't have have put this matchup down because Rahman didn't have Tua's number going 0-1-1 against him. I saw Rahman and Tua being at about the same top contender level status. Both were at that level of ability from about 1997-2003. Rahman did have the one better win being his fluke shot on a cawky, undertrained Lewis.
     
  12. pablod

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    gotta be turpin vs robinson
    possibly the most skilled fighter of all time couldn't do a thing with the rugged, crude Englishman. Only Robinsons uncanny power saved him the second time.
     
  13. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tua never knocked Rahman out.
    Still you are correct that it is not a good example of having 1's #.

    The draw was not a robbery, but depending on the the scoring of the last (or after last) moment KD, it could have been scored narrowly for Rahman.
     
  14. Stevie G

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    The best example. Dempsey was an all time great while Meehan never really accomplished anything else signifigant.
     
  15. rossco666

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    Jimmy Warnock beat the superior Benny Lynch twice.