Fighters who killed opponents in the ring

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  1. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The great lightweight Lou Anbers killed an opponent in the ring Tony Scarpati, way before Ambers became champion.
     
  2. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    Apollo Creed died in the ring; otherwise, nearly all--even Johnny Owen (7 weeks)--have died days or weeks later.

    Scarpati died 3 days later.

    From memory, "Dracula" died about one or two weeks later.
     
  3. NoNeck

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    I don't think they declare fighters dead in the ring.
     
  4. MadcapMaxie

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    Max Baer usually gets credited with the death of both Frankie Campbell and Earnie Schaff although Schaff died in his bout with Carnera. But I've also heard Max killed a man in sparring anybody know any details?
     
  5. Johnstown

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    Jess willard killed bull young
     
  6. TBooze

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    Credited?
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    Yes, Baer does get credited (unfortunately 'credited' IS the right word, because it's usually brought up in the context of discussing Baer's prowess).
    But it's bull**** really. It was hype and conjecture on the part of the press, I believe.
    Sure, his beating of Schaaf very possibly contributed to Schaaf's death, but Schaaf had fought a ton of tough guys, in the ring and in the gym, and taken a fair few punches, and any of all of them might have contributed.
     
  8. Vyborg1917

    Vyborg1917 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hadn't Baroudi killed someone too?
     
  9. TBooze

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    Here is a BBC documentary from 2002 where Johnny Owen's Dad goes to meet the fighter in the ring, when his son died.

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  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just a bit of trivia -1) in the 4 months between the Baer fight and the Carnera fight, Schaaf fought 3 more times. 2) His last fight before Carnera he stopped the #3 ranked Stanley Poreda in 6 rounds. 3) Poreda was coming off a win over Tommy Loughran and after his loss to Schaaf he stopped Tom Heeney in 10. 4) In his fight with Baer he did not so much suffer a bad beating as he did a bad KO. He was actually ahead on points and would have won the fight but Baer pulled back a KO but the bell rang ending the fight and he took the decision. It appears Schaaf may have just suffered from a very hard, budy schedule.