Fighters who left you with a bitter taste for having totally or partially wasted their talent

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Boxing2019, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you can dream it, you can do it Full Member

    Jul 22, 2019
    Boxing history is full of talented fighters who FOR VARIOUS REASONS have wasted their potential. I think of Tyson, for example, who when came back on the scene after a long and forced period of inactivity was no longer that devastating machine everyone had admired in the 80s. I also think about those many fighters who retired too early like Bowe...
    What were the fighters for you who werent able to express their talent all the way?
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2019
  2. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

    Sep 21, 2012
    Chad Dawson.- He switched trainers too many times, got caught up with bad promoting, then made the ill fate moved down to 168.

    Andre Dirrell- Wasted time with bad promoters/rapper/management like Dawson. Bad decision to claim neurological issue which further kept him out the ring. Maybe both guys would've met similar fate due to questionable chins, but there were bad decsions as well that prevented us from seeing the full potential.

    Laila Ali- I may have appreciated women's boxing had she not chose her ex-husband to represent her Yayha McCain. He straight ducked the whole lot of 2 women best to face her: Rijker & Wolfe claiming the same garbage; they were hard to negotiate with. End result she fought Martin-3 divsions lighter than her. Got her nose broken by a near 40 year old Jackie Frazier who turned pro just to whoop her. This girl Lailai started out as a chubby chick who swung like a school girl in a playground fight.
    Within 5-10 bouts, her jab straightened up, her booty thickened out. Just saying....

    Her speed increased. Seriously outside Bernard Hopkins I never seen a non-amateur boxer make progression like her. But she kept fighting little tiny girls, some over and over like Mahfood who hadn't a won a major fight within 3 years of taking on Ali. Fans got so pissed that they bombarded her website, to which she ...check this out-Laila started charging to access her web page (it died quickly) but it was the I'm privilaged mindset that cause her to turn away the best matches.
    1 million was offered for her to fight Ann Wolfe. Wolfe turned it down & admitted she did lamenting- I am a champ in 6 different weight classes and because her name is ali she offers me 10%? I got all the belts, they invented belts for her (like the diamond)...SO Wolfe turned to James Kirkland. Lucia Ryjker turned actress (million dollar baby) and Laila went dancing with the stars. She wasted her talent and felled miserably to live up to the name Ali and fight the best whenever. Not on her terms.
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  3. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Active Member Full Member

    Apr 26, 2019
    Victor Ortiz comes to mind, for when he head butted Floyd out of frustration and then got his chin destroyed by those 2 free shots. Had he just lost the honorable way he could have still went on to have a strong career after that fight.
  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict booted Full Member

    Nov 21, 2009
    "Super" Gato Gonzalez 1981 a fricking killer at lightweight. Compared to Duran. Lost in a joke to Noel who he should have crushed in 2.
    Colin Jones- just never threw enough.

    Barry McGuigan- body smashing great who had it all but fizzled out and lost heart.

    Sugar Ray Leonard-should have been fighting 7 or times a year like Duran and all the old champs with nontitle fights. Should of given up his ***** heart and just fought. No special rules. Waiting till guys are old. Give IMMEDIATE rematches. He got one.

    Pryor-PUT DOWN THE PIPE AARON!!!!! Y whined forever about making big money and fame and then just when you arrive, you light up and disappear. Fight 7 times to 10 a year and grasp your chance for greatness.

    Mike Rossman after winning 4 fights in 83 and the being such an ******* no one wants to work with him again. You could have made a fortune in the decimated division in 84-
    Tony Baltazar- no heart just like yr brother.

    Mancini- put the weights away. You became musclebound and forced yrself out of yr all pressure style. Also, defend against a real opponent. You destroyed yr legacy by looking like you ducked everyone after winning the title. The Ray who fought Arguello and prior to Arguello was a completely different fighter. Maybe the ETM knocked it all out of you.

    Sean O'Grady- tell dad to shut the **** up. Do you realize how big O''GRADY VS. MANCINI would be in 1982?
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  5. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Dec 10, 2014
    Jose Luis Lopez
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  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Podcast EVERY SOMETIMES Full Member

    Jul 18, 2018
    Ike Ibeabuchi, Gerald McClellan, Arron Pryror, Rocky Graziano (though it wasn't his fault), Luther McCarty, Sven Ottke, Jack Dempsey, Roland LaStarza

    Last but not least Terry Malloy, he could've been a contender, a somebody, but instead he took a one way ticket to palookaville.
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  7. manilavanilla

    manilavanilla New Member Full Member

    Oct 30, 2019
  8. TheWorstEver(TWE)

    TheWorstEver(TWE) Member Full Member

    Sep 22, 2018
    Bowe - If he hadn't had a fridge installed in the bedroom.
    Tyson - If he hadn't gone to Indianapolis.
    Duran - Sounds a weird one this but for me after the 1st Leonard fight he showed up for fights out of shape far too many times.
    Hatton - Might have lasted longer if he hadn't binged between fights, had/has serious food & booze issues.
    Ike Ibeabuchi - Could've made things really interesting in the 90's.
  9. JamesLightsOutToney

    JamesLightsOutToney New Member Full Member

    Jul 4, 2019
    Good story, I didn't know about that. Thanks for the post
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  10. JamesLightsOutToney

    JamesLightsOutToney New Member Full Member

    Jul 4, 2019
    Tyson, McLellan, and to a much lesser extent James Toney (at least for the RJJ fight, it would have been so great hqd he been in shape...)
  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    Dempsey...should have told Kearns to shove it with all the films and vaudeville bs and kept fighting!
    I want to edit in Witherspoon. After the Holmes fight he never showed that conditioning or commitment again
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

    Apr 3, 2012
    Joan Guzman
    Paul Spadafora
    Hopefully not Errol Spence
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  13. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

    Jul 25, 2015
    John Conteh
    Chan Hee Park
    Young Griffo
    Tae Shik Kim
    Antonio Gomez
  14. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    Mando Ramos - I know he turned pro young, but the years of dissipating his talent with booze and drugs and poor training habits left him washed up at 23. Talent squandered.

    Most recently, Gary Russell - his prime earning years and he has fought once a year for the last 5 years. Talent wasted.
  15. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Podcast EVERY SOMETIMES Full Member

    Jul 18, 2018
    Was just talking to Roughdiamond about this one

    Khaosai Galaxy had all the talent and dominance in the world and there was good competition available to him at the time, but he simply didnt fight them for some reason. All the right setup for ATG status thrown away

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