Fighters Who Most Benefited From Nice Judges

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  1. Italian Stallion

    Italian Stallion Active Member Full Member

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    Getting "robbed" by the judges is a familiar thing to boxing fans, unfortunately. If it's your only biggest fight, that's even worse.
    Evander Holyfield had really nice judges. Which other boxers did also?
     
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  2. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll just start with the obvious one. Canelo
    Muhammad Ali
    Sven Ottke
    John Ruiz
     
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  3. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sven Ottke
    Canelo Alverez
     
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  5. JLP1978

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    Floyd Mayweather against Castillo I

    I think Floyd lost a pretty clear decision again Castilio but because Floyd was a somebody and JL was nobody Floyd got the decision.

    Leonard vs Hagler

    Leonard was looked like he was doing something but he was really running and stopping for a couple of punches then running again. Hagler was a close to being a shot fighter but he did not lose to Leonard.

    Sugar Ray Robinson

    Robinson probably should have lost a few of those fights to Lamotta and perhaps a few other prime fights that I heard of but cannot remember. Perhaps smarter posters can help me out if they are in agreement.

    Manny Pacquiao

    Manny may have lost every fight against Márquez on points. He was not being dominated but he was not clearly winning even though his body language may have suggested otherwise
     
  6. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously Ottke. Lennox vs Mercer is a shout
     
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    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali

    Galindez
    Holmes
    Leonard
    Pedroza
     
  8. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Harold Valan was a dunce to give Ellis the decision against Patterson.
    Ali had some compassionate judges for Young, Norton III, and even Spinks I.
    Foreman had some nice judges for the Schulz fight.
    The judges turned on George when he fought Briggs.
    The judges were pretty generous to give Lewis a draw the first time he fought Holyfield.
     
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  9. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [QUOTE="JLP1978, post: 205549Sugar Ray Robinson

    Robinson probably should have lost a few of those fights to Lamotta and perhaps a few other prime fights that I heard of but cannot remember. Perhaps smarter posters can help me out if they are in agreement.

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    No offense, but I think you shouldn't suggest fights as being robberies unless you've seen them first.
     
  10. Henry Hank

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    Paulie Ayala.
    Ottke.
    Canelo.
    Ali.

    Most home fighters specially in places like Thailand and Argentina its very hard for a foreign fighter to get a decision there even harder if the home fighter also happens to be the champion.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    If you look at some guy's careers, if the close decisions had gone against them, they'd be relatively obscure. Just shows you how subjective boxing can be.
     
  12. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Ali did win a few decisions he shouldn't have, but it's not like he won robbery after robbery. In fact, the only ludicrous decisions Ali was ever involved in would be the following:
    Doug Jones
    Ken Norton I
    Jimmy Young
    Ken Norton III
    Leon Spinks I

    The Jones and Norton rubber match were not terrible decisions from the point of view that they were close fights, but what irritated me was that Jones and Norton didn't even get a vote, or maybe even a draw, even though I thought both of them won.
    His losses to Norton and Spinks were ludicrous because Ali was so clearly whipped and still won the card of one judge both times. Those judges...
    The Young fight has got to be one of the grossest robberies in boxing history.
     
  13. JLP1978

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    No offense, but I think you shouldn't suggest fights as being robberies unless you've seen them first.[/QUOTE]


    None taken.
     
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  14. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Mayweather clearly beat Castillo. Leonard clearly beat Hagler. And I don't believe for a minute a pre-civil rights black man gets a gift against a white man in racist America

    Although Pacquaio got gifts a plenty against Marquez
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    Like Tiger Flowers against Harry Greb, twice?
     
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