Fighters who overcame all styles?

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jimmy Young, Joey Maxim, Sammy Angott.....a fighter who wins by basically negating the strengths of his opponent.
     
  2. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Langford beats Johnson really at any point to be honest. Johnson was just all wrong for Sam. Their first fight wasn't even close at all.. so I'm unclear.. even if Johnson went down some.. how that difference would've been made up. That said, I agree HAD he beaten Johnson he's p4p no. 1.
     
  3. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ricardo Lopez. He beat bums, midgets, raw rookies, and washed up burnouts.
     
  4. dyna

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    W-Wlad?

    Southpaw slick Byrd
    Southpaw awkward Thompson
    Slugger Peter
    Chambers
    Schulz
    Counter punching Haye

    It's not really the strongest resume but he got a very diverse one.
    Lewis has a much stronger resume but not quarter as diverse as Wlad his resume. (And as far as southpaws go, Wlad is the only hw ATG which can say "I have a southpaw resume")
     
  5. dyna

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    :lol:
     
  6. dyna

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    John Ruiz is the very best example of it.

    old Hopkins and Fres Oquendo are also good examples
     
  7. atberry

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    Nigel Benn's underrated at dealing with different styles - a marauder in Barkley, mover in Eubank (II), boxer-fighter in DeWitt and boxer-puncher in McClellan, all forced to bow.

    Though I suppose he never did have success against the peek-a-boo style - Watson, Malinga :roll:
     
  8. JLP 6

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    Maricano.

    For a semi-crude banger he beat a nice variety in his opponents.

    Subtle movement and power of Walcott. Speed and angles of Charles, and power, angles, and experience of Moore.

    One other thing concerning Maricano. Weight always comes up with him facing the greats. Of the 49 total fights he had 10 of them were fights where his opponent was at or over 200 pounds.

    The average weight of those 10 fighters was 214.7. Maricano's average weight was 187.1 in those ten fights. A difference of 27.6. Everyone of these fighters were KO'ed. They went an average of 3.9 rounds with this fighter Maricano. I am not saying these men were the greatest fighters but these 10 fighters were sprinkled all through his career. The heaviest being 254 (KO1 Humprey Jackson, '48 and the last one being 205 pounds, Don Cockell (1955 KO9).

    I this proves to me that weight and reach don't make a difference when it comes to all-time greats. They overcome the odds.
     
  9. heavy_hands

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    yes ali was the most versatile motther****er in the history of boxing
     
  10. heavy_hands

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    rocky marciano without a doubt, he got knocked down by a 40 years old lhw, the worst version of louis lasted more than 7 rounds against prime rocky, walcott made him look stupid until he got a lucky shot, in a 12 rounder rocky would have lost badly,a bum like tastarza fought a war with rocky, yes marciano, and liston, he said that clay would last 2 rounds and he proved that
     
  11. dyna

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    :lol:, and I don't even think you're wrong.
     
  12. Anubis

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    Since I didn't see him in previewing this thread, I'll throw in Arguello. He won three championships and never lost a title defense. As a champion, one has to be prepared to defend against all styles as a matter of course to get on top and remain there. Elizondo aggressively swarmed him against the ropes, and got his jaw fractured with counter-punching. Attacking Alexis like that wasn't like pressing Benitez against the ropes. Arguello could knock your head off if you tried backing him up like that.

    His rematch against Fernandez was a dominant performance. Ganigan was a weird southpaw slugger, Watt a strong southpaw boxer-puncher, Busceme a southpaw runner.

    Others on this list overcame all styles. Alexis did it against all styles from the southpaw presentation of them, utilizing classic orthodoxy. As an aging 140 pounder, he also demonstrated he could pick on people his own size, with Noel, Costello and Rooney. [Kevin, normally a WW, was a tough customer and respectable scalp who was only put out like that by Arguello. Davey Moore, a big strong LMW, had to settle for a cut stoppage against Rooney. I thought at the time that Moore-Rooney II would have been a viable quick rematch.]
     
  13. Bummy Davis

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    Joe Louis fought all styles and if he did not get you the first time he would get you the next..."fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

    Marciano fought a good range of fighting styles and was successful

    Ali had trouble with the smaller guys and swarmers but was excellent against the big slow brawlers, over all he beat a good range of fighting styles.
     
  14. heavy_hands

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    david jaco is the man, tyson and foreman stopped him in the round 1 but it was because don king did pay him, plus he had another job at gardener so he had to go early, but he had the style and the height to beat both them, plus ruddock pretended an asthma attack because he was not very entrusted to win.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    Arguello did indeed deal with Rooney better than Moore (who I really rate by the way)

    Anyway, in terms of the top level fighters je beat;

    Navarette/Limon; both Lefty bangers, Limon harder but Navarette more refined.

    Chacon; the quintessential tear-up merchant tried to utilise his skills in this one. As soon as he showed his true colours Arguello merc'd him.

    Boza Edwards; known for being exciting all the time but actually a top amateur with the famed Kampala City Bombers and a top, top amateur.. Southpaw, a fair dig but against Arguello he was at his natural weight and it was prior to too much madness. Boza tried to use his skills, and Arguello proved je was the deadlier master of range.

    Fact us, Arguello had a clear Stylistic deficiency and it only reared it's head enoug for him to lose a few times in his prime, over 4 weights and never losing a title defence.

    He is very, very stylistically proven without being infallible.

    I felt Ramirez was robbe against Alexis by the way. Showed how you didn't need to be negative to stunt Arguello's work, althoug the bout was fiery and competitive throughout.