Fighters who underachieved

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do not get the Ibeabuchi call, it is a lazy generalisation.


    He was mentally ill. That helps explain some of the tactics he used. Without his illness, and thus potentially a later retirement, he would have been a slow plodder with a decent punch and good chin. That probably gets him a top 10 ranking somewhere along the line, and with the right promotion, a losing title shot.


    Thus Mr President overachieved greatly.
     
  2. ecto55

    ecto55 Putty, Australia Full Member

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    Boxing's full of unfulfilled promise and talent, but I'll put forward Charlie 'White Lightening' Brown.
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Howard Davis. I don’t think he was 100 percent dedicated ... I mean, AFAIK he never showed up out of shape or anything but I don’t believe he deep down wanted to improve and be the best and do what it would take to do that.

    He had world-class ability but didn’t put in world-class, everyday effort to maximize it.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxingoholican Full Member

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    Sooncreate3 New Member Full Member

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    LOL i was joking hahaha :D :D :D. At that point, Duran won't even be a superhuman anymore but a god.
     
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  7. Sooncreate3

    Sooncreate3 New Member Full Member

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    In all seriousness, guys I truly think that underachieved are Andrew Golota, Adrien Broner, Mike Tyson, Jermain Taylor, and Meldrick Taylor to name a few. In addition, in a sense, Marcos Maidana as I feel that he had the potential to become a Hall of Fame welterweight after giving Floyd hell in the first fight but then he retired and got fat.
     
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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin End of an error. Full Member

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    Gary Russell Jr. and Demetrius Andrade both probably could have accomplished a whole lot more but for inactivity and their failure to make more fights against quality opponents.
     
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  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ecto, with all due respect, I would not have gone with White Lightning. I was following him close at the time - even when he was an amateur - and I felt they were almost clearing the road of all obstacles for him to get his title shot at Harry Arroyo. I felt he was the recipient of a couple of dubious calls in his bouts with Frank Newton and Louie Burke to get to Harry. So, an underachiever I would not call him.
     
  10. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    Forgot to name Mahmmet Abdulajew, Istvan Kovac, Alexander Frenkel, Rustam Tschakijew, Antonio Perugino, Les Darcy, Rudolf Kraj, Troy Ross.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His trainer told me attention and money ruined him.
     
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    LoadedGlove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I actually think Randolph Turpin, great though he was, never truly achieved all his talent could have realised.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    Michael Watson has to be up there, through no fault of his own.
     
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  14. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Part of boxing and the greatness of boxers are the intangibles. So in some ways, everybody went as far as they were supposed to go. I thought Michael Grant, for instance, was going to go further, but he had neither the chin nor the overall boxing ability to get to the top.

    There are several guys who, at one time or another, I thought would achieve more, including:
    Gerry Cooney, John Tate, Greg Page, Michael Dokes, Gerry Cooney, Tyrell Biggs, Michael Nunn, Donald Curry, Todd Hickman, Howard Davis, Wille DeWitt, Razor Ruddock, Kallie Knoetze... the list is endless, really.

    There was a heavyweight from the San Francisco Bay Area who came up and boxed our amateurs in Eureka, CA. He looked spectacular against our small town local guys. I thought he was a future star. Later I saw him on TV in a U.S. vs some country amateur competition, and he was kayoed. As a pro he went 2-3 (1).
     
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  15. Oddone

    Oddone Love child of Mike Tyson & Ronald McDonald Full Member

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    Razor Ruddock.
     
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