Fighters who used fouls to good effect?

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like it or not, fouls of some kind is part of many seasoned pro's arsenal and many greats had their own favourite fouls. Here's a look at some of them:

    Ali: It was not pretty, but he perfected holding and leaning to an art when his legs wouldn't always carry him out of harms way anymore. Lewis is one of his disciples.

    Foreman: His pushing and shoving was an important part of his arsenal. It made up for his poor text book defence in a way, since he didn't let his opponents get set.

    Marciano: The classic brusier tactics. He'd hit where it hurt, legal or not. Frazier also belongs to this tradition to a degree + he liked to put his head in his opponents face. If you're unsure if this really is a foul look at the ref in RJJ-Ruiz.

    Baer: Actually used a backhanded slap.

    Holyfield: Known for getting away with headbutts. He'd do what was needed.

    Any more examples? Which were the dirtiest fighters below HW for example? Duran?
     
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  2. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fullmer Fenech and Wilfrdo Gomez were often brutally dirty.

    Pedroza with his elbows and low-blows.

    Conteh for opening up cuts with headwork on the inside.

    MIke McCallum threw as many low-blows as he did legit bodyshots.

    Benn for rabbit punching, hitting while down\on the break etc...

    Azumah Nelson could be very cynical and occasionally attempted to end fights with massive powershots just after the bell.

    Duran, Hopkins, Chang, oguma, Herol Grhaam...


    Quite a lot when you start to think about it.
     
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  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, maybe a better question would be who didn't? Louis looks like a very clean fighter. Of course, he held on so hard when Conn hurt him that they seemed to be drunks dancing, but I can't think of anything he put into systemic practice.
     
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  4. MrMarvel

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    Chavez elbows
     
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  5. MrMarvel

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    Holmes thumbs
     
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  6. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know why more fighters don't use this strategy. It's brilliant.
     
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  7. lefthook31

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    Bruno hitting on the side of the head
    Ruiz holding and grabbing
    Holyfield headbutting
    Tyson elbowing
    Lennox Lewis leaning on top of his opponent
    Bernard Hopkins hitting his opponents on their thighs
    Riddick Bowe hitting on the break (side of head)
    Rosendo Alvarez low blows elbows
     
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  8. GPater11093

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    Duran

    also Froch used fouling to good effect the other night
     
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  9. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    who was the guy whos mom tagged in and did a number on his opponent with her shoe - been watching way to much WWE in their house
     
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  10. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fritzie Zivic was the undisputed king of fouling and getting away with it. I'll try and dig up some Robinson/LaMotta quotes about the man.

    Mysterious Billy Smith for plain dirtiest fighter.
     
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  11. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1135345/index.htm

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  12. Unforgiven

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    Jack Dempsey of course.

    Lennox Lewis, for leaning on opponents and holding-and-hitting. The Grant fight is a pure masterclass of fouls.
     
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  13. Thread Stealer

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    A lot of fighters.

    Duran won the LW title on a low blow, although it was retaliating for a foul.

    Holyfield was a master of the "unintentional deliberate headbutt".

    Pedroza should've been DQ'd against LaPorte, he hit him with so many low blows, punches to the back, and elbows.

    Mayweather is effective at using his forearms and elbows to create space for shots on the inside, and also has no problem bumping you with a right elbow after landing a straight right hand (often a leaping one).

    Lewis always hit and held when he landed right uppercuts.

    Trinidad would hit you with timely, debilitating low blows.

    Hopkins with low blows and headbutts. He also manages to do it away from the ref and then get hit with a foul in front of the ref and make sure the ref notices he was fouled.

    The least effective fouler in recent memory was Terry Norris. Andrew Golota too, although a bite might've saved him from getting KO'd.
     
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  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have it right Mantequilla...my man Pedroza was an unsung master at the art of the foul, and Gene Fullmer just couldn't help it...he was so strong and rough, and fought so many animals...he had to fight the way he did..he was one rough guy..and one of my favorites.
     
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  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fritzie Zivic was of course the REMBRANDT of dirty fighting...the all time master.
     
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