Fighters Who Were/Are Enigmas

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Russell, Dec 7, 2009.


  1. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah but he was on a six year winning clip and getting more devastating as he moved up the ladder. Not saying he was going to be an ATG, just kind of an enigma as to how good he could have become, especially if they would have stopped the Benn fight in the first round which would have been justifiable.
     
  2. bodhi

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    Erdei, Dzinziruk.

    Both were feeded wih no names by their promoter, Klaus-Peter Kohl, and most of the time didn't look special in beating them. When they had to step up they beat their opponents clearly and at times impressivly. Sad Universum hided them away.
     
  3. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Naseem Hamed for me.
     
  4. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    beat me to it. A very talented man. Pity how hes ended up
     
  5. TommyV

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    Tyson, obviously.

    A great fighter no doubt who did some great things, but his downfall means he never achieved what many suggested he could, in becoming the #1 HW of all-time.

    Salvador Sanchez is rated on ATG charts basically on what he COULD of achieved. Not that he didn't already make his mark before his tragic early death.
     
  6. Titan1

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    Greg Page
    Hector Camacho.
     
  7. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well, that and the fact that he literally kept moving up in weight all the way up to Cruiser for a few fights.

    There's no reason he had to move beyond SMW. :think:think
     
  8. ryanm8655

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    I was going to say him too.

    His biggest fans think he could've been an atg had he not lost the desire, his haters think he was never that good in the first place.
     
  9. Addie

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    Why didn't a rematch ensue? The first fight was a tough, competitive, exciting fight.
     
  10. Mantequilla

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    I doubt Nunn was that interested in one.Similar case to Toney losing to Jones and motivation subsequently slipping away, only with Nunn i'd say it started after the kalambay fight.
     
  11. Addie

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    I think Nunn stopped being as elusive for 2 reasons. 1, he knocked out the best Middleweight in the division with a single shot. He started to think if he landed, he'd get them out of there. 2, I feel he was under pressure by the Goosen's and HBO to bring a more user friendly style to the ring. He was being molded into a star, and that just wanted happen with him dancing around the ring like he did early on in his career.
     
  12. Mantequilla

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    Possibly, but he wasn't exactly loading up more.He just seemed lazier and unable to fight 3 minutes a round without coasting or lying on the ropes/inside.
     
  13. lefthook31

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    Toney always wanted a rematch with Jones Jr. He felt like Jones forced him to fight at a weight he knew Toney would have to kill himself to make. The problem is the fight was so one sided there was no interest in a rematch.
    Toney had some pretty bad ups and down, the divorce from his wife, the split from his manager, all created a lot of problems, and most of it was brought on by him. I think he lost interest in boxing for a while, and ultimately regained it, but only fighting, he had no interest in doing anything else.
    He'd come to the gym and just spar guys nothing else, thats why his timing and ability stayed in tact so well, even at the higher weights, because he was putting a lot of ring work in, but nothing else.
     
  14. Blood Green

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    Sometimes I wonder what Toney could've done at heavyweight. The only time he was really in shape there was against Holyfield and he obviously looked great. Also, I think Holyfield gets downplayed in that fight. Holy's shoulder was healthy at the time (unlike with Byrd and Donald) and he fought hard for the first four rounds or so until Toney started breaking him down. I can't really see who he'd lose to other than Lewis and the Klitschko's.
     
  15. EleventhHour

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    Khaosai Galaxy, Naseem Hamed (although there's something incredibly satisfying in watching MAB take him to school, I would have liked to have seen him try to recover from that loss).