Fighters who weren't the sum of their parts

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  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    If you like Japanese fighters then you'd definitely enjoy watching Kazuyoshi Kanazawa. I personally thought he looked superb in his 2nd bout with a prime Ruben Olivares. He put in the performance of his life. Kiyoshi Hatanaka is another wo could've been so much more if not for eye injuries. Same with Tatsuyoshi.

    I have to disagree with this. Just because he was losing to bebop phenoms like Giardello, Rodriguez and Tiger or master boxers like Archer doesn't mean he was bad. He showed a variety of skills in terms of parrying, slipping, bobbing, smothering etc which is probably what @JohnThomas1 was referring to. I myself was surprised when I first watched him years ago as I expected him to be a low skilled war monger.
     
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Born Again Gadfly Full Member

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    No quit in the Japanese it’s something in the water they are a joy to watch. I’ve read they have the highest fatalities of all the other countries in boxing a price paid I suppose.

    He really isn’t impressive I’m going to maintain my opinion on the matter. He was better then I thought after hearing everything about him but all round really nothing truly special.
     
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  3. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Elisha Obed - looked a sure bet to reign at JMW for years , alas not to be.
    Goyo Vargas- after he beat Hodkinson was booked for many defences, didn't happen.
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Loyal Member Full Member

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    I always felt Cooney could have been better than he was. His problem was 90% mental
     
  5. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree 100% focus and consistency is the rarest commodity in sports
     
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  6. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    That fight, man - just an amazing one. Need to watch it again. He's so obviously outgunned by Olivares but there was no quit in Kanazawa at all. In the end, he just collapsed through sheer physical exhaustion.
     
  7. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I sure do remember Elisha Obed, he had a few fights in my hometown in the 1970's.
     
  8. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Always disappointed how Joan Guzman didn't reach the heights that he should have given his talents. If he was only more disciplined and wasn't such a fatass he could have been much greater. I would have loved to see him fight Nate Campbell at the time.

    Jhonny Gonzalez is also another that could have reached to a higher elite level were it not for his fragility. He and Junior Jones had that same problem.
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't the first round knockdown of Golota by Tyson literally break Golota's orbital socket or something? Even a faded Tyson would have managed to another decent shot or two up there.

    I think Golota had lost that fight with that knockdown and knew it, so he quit rather than go out on his shield.
     
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  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Greg Page had the most talent of the 1980s ‘lost generation’ of heavyweights but not the desire. His lack of focus and distaste for training caught up with him.
     
  12. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    It's "casual" not "causal".

    BTW, Greynotsoold apparently disagrees with you that Foreman pushed up from the floor while punching. Guess he's a moron.
     
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  13. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Born Again Gadfly Full Member

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    Going after grammar? really?

    When exactly did he do that?
     
  14. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    Grammar? He literally said he didn't use the floor.

    He literally said Foreman did not punch from the floor up. He said this TODAY. It has nothing to do with "grammar". The point is he contradicted what you said.

    You:

     
  15. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Born Again Gadfly Full Member

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    Firstly I meant when I wrote a typo Glass lol.

    My opinion does not rest on another mans it doesn't change anything- I think anything with power starts at the floor. Also the mechanics for
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    power and speed are the same... I think Grey will agree with me on this. If @greynotsoold thinks Foreman punched top down he is entitled to. There in lies the difference you didn't even know what an arm puncher was till I explained it to you after all your gibberish.