Stalling the action to catch a breather so that you can keep fighting is completely different to quitting. Chico Corrales spit his mouth piece out on purpose in his career and heart defining fight. Funny to think that how had if the ref called the fight off in that moment, Chico would have been called a 'quitter' by people on the internet. Spitting out a mouthpiece is usually done so that fighters can get extra time to their legs back under them. If you think about it... its the exact opposite of quitting, they are trying to give themselves a chance to continue.
If you sincerely think thats even close to true, the only thing that is comparable to Zelenoff in this instance is your IQ.
Currently crawford Whyte Fury Best example of a no quit in him performance for me is Shannon Briggs v vitali, there’s other arguments for gatti v ward and others but Briggs was never in a position to win that fight and took an absolute pasting for nothing even vitali was gesturing to the ref to stop it and you could see him confused by a display of chin that is all time for me.
But they are bending the rules in their favour. Spit the mouthpiece and then act non-commital as to whether you want to continue the fight is to me the epitomy of quitting via passiveness. AJ was better for the quitting longterm. He could have taken a real beatdown if he had continued.
So when a chess player realises that they're in a position wherein defeat is inevitable do you think they should play the game out until mate lest they be a quitter?
AJ? I like AJ but he quit, he made no attempt to follow the referee's instructions and get out of the corner and his face revealed that he didn't want to be in there. He also made the right decision. It was time to quit, regroup and come back stronger. Retiring from a fight your getting beat in is so overblown it's stupid, they're in there risking their lives. He wasn't going to turn that around, he was on his way to getting KO'd and he showed plenty of heart continuing for as long as he did. Plus instead of taking further damage he learned from his mistakes, made the adjustments he needed and schooled Ruiz in the rematch. 'Quitting' is such overblown bull****. There athletes, not gladiators fighting to the death.
I'm not a Wilder fan by any stretch of the imagination but he's not been mentioned anywhere near enough in this thread. The guy has fought on through injuries multiple times, came from behind to score countless KOs & battled through adversity against Ortiz. Huge heart, I don't see him quitting.
I think anyone under the right circumstances can end it on the stool and not be slandered with a quitter tag. Had Davey Moore stayed on his stool after the seventh round against Duran would he be called a quitter? He sure should have ,shouldn't he.