Fighters Who's Power Is Overrated?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Fighter s that you feel, aren't quite as hard hitting as they're made out to be?
    Who's Power isn't really all that?
     
  2. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Golovkin. I wouldn't be surprised if Ray Robinson hit harder than him.
     
  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not sure what you're saying. Are you suggesting Robinson didn't have power?
     
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  4. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, he absolutely did. But GGG's power has been praised far more than Robinson's these last few years. You'd think his power is on par with Roy Jones' and just below Jackson's, Fitzsimmons' and McClellan's the way people talk about it. I'm more impressed with Robinson's overall showings of power (Fullmer and Graziano KO, LaMotta 6 etc) than I've been with Golovkin's.
     
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  5. Jakub79

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    Mike Tyson. It seems that he did not have as strong a single blow as is believed. The second one is Deontay Wilder. There were a few stronger ones, but he is considered the hardest puncher in history. In my opinion it's not even close, although it undoubtedly hits very hard
     
  6. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ray Mercer, maybe Ron Lyle, typically guys who are noted from 1 particular fight and people apply it across the board, Mercer landed a barrage and because the ref didn’t step in, it looked brutal, Mercer could punch, but wasn’t a devastating 1 punch knockout artist.
     
  7. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know about that one. GGG was a pretty murderous puncher. No doubt Sugar Ray is known as the greatest P4P fighter ever. I can't argue against that but I don't see him as a heavier hitter than GGG. Ray was a nature welterweight in the same day weigh in era. GGG was a natural Middleweight that came to the ring over 170. P4P, Ray was as murderous as it gets.
     
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  8. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm going to go with John Mugabi. He was very feared and I remember some thinking that he was going to beat the ageing Hagler. Going into the Hagler fight, he had knocked out everyone he had faced but looking back on his career, he didn't really do much at the highest level and his power didn't save him against the top fighter's of his era.
     
  9. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    idk about that. Their punch delivery are complete opposites.
     
  10. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think the weight difference changes anything in this case. It's not as if Robinson weighed 147 during his MW bouts, he often weighed near 160 and it was a natural climb. GGG's heaviest in-Ring weight was 173 iirc, he sometimes weighed less than 170. Roughly 10 lbs aren't going to make a huge difference. His actual feats of power are definitely more impressive.

    Fullmer was about as durable as Canelo, and if not, then he wasn't too far away from that. He only saw the canvas against Robinson and Lausse. Lausse is one of the most underrated fighters and punchers of all time. Yet he had him down for only half a second despite hitting him with a huge left swing while Fullmer was on the front foot. Robinson is the only man to get him to stay in the canvas, and it was with a single shot. GGG never KO'd someone with a chin like that with a single shot.

    He's had other crazy feats too, Stopping Graziano in his tracks out of nowhere with a single shot to the head, snapping Olson's head the way he did, basically being the sole reason LaMotta is thought of as unstoppable at the poundage etc.
     
  11. Wladimir

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  12. Overhand94

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    I disagree with you respectfully.
    Without counting his first opponents, Tyson stopped Berbick, Tubbs, Spinks, Williams, Tillman, Botha and Etienne with one shot.
    There was also plenty of time where he knocked down his opponents with one shot.
     
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  13. Jakub79

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    absolutely yes, very, very strong but probably not as much of a KO monster as he was painted. He hit very hard, but was it harder than Ruddock, Smith, Bruno, Lewis? I'm not convinced... his power was due to good timing, speed, accumulation, hitting from different planes, but did he hit anyone as hard as Lewis hit Rahman? Look how many times he hit Pinkie Thomas cleanly. How many times had he hit the glassy Bruno? Carl Williams often fell to the floor and got up after his punch, and Etienne, in my opinion, didn't want to get up and fight.
     
  14. mcvey

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    Vitali.
     
  15. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    I understand your point of view but I believe he is in the same category as Ruddock/Bruno/Smith/Lewis. They were stronger than him physically (but still, Tyson held his own at some moments) but his punching power rivalled them. He just had different type of punching mechanic because of his inferior size, which is why he had to rely more on his speed, timing and technique.

    Tyson could turn the tide or precipitate the demise of his opponent just with one shot. His opponents always had to clinch him or tying him up to weather storm. Even in the late 90's/early 00's where his speed diminished, his one shot power was still a threat.

    I believe the shot that KOed Botha was in the same category as the one who KOed Rahman.

    Thomas was a special case because he had a great chin. No one did what Tyson inflicted on him.
    Bruno had better chin than people give him credit for, Tyson knocked him down in both fights whereas Lewis couldn't, even though he hit him with monstrous hooks and uppercuts.
     
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