Fighters Who's Power Is Overrated?

I honestly believe Hagler ruined him. That was a great fight.

 

No he was a limited fighter but a big puncher ... look how he bounded a very solid chinned Tim Witherspoon and blew out Mike Weaver ... Crusher was a hit time puncher ...

 

To me KOing someone at the highest level is what matters.

Tyson KO'ed several of the Ring Magazine's top 10 fighters. Williams,Bruno,Spinks,Thomas so no way was his power overrated. Yes speed and timing was a thing,but I think that is a given for most punchers.

Wilder didn't knock out anyone significant so him.

 

I rather discount the Witherspoon ko,I don't think Tim had a positive mind set for that one.
Weaver did not have a very sturdy chin imo.

 

This is why that 925 should matter.

I'm not sure how to say this without catching a ban. I caught a warning for telling a jabroni "if you don't agree you must suffer from tiny pee-pee" which ... c'mon ... grown ass adult got upset? That wasn't a real criticism, it was a joke. This is a criticism.

So when trying to convey the entire parameter system youse lot use, are comfortable with, were introduced to by older generations, is stupid; makes me a little nervous I'll be capped.

I don't mean like in my opinion y'all all dummies. I just mean to say opinion based arguments don't have any intelligence because they were never designed intelligently. They do not lack bias because by design they are a list of your bias.

Who has the most power, who is underrated, who is overrated. ... Maybe doing math on bag videos gives you weak numbers but at least it's not "My opinion of X is based on my opinion of Y even though X and Y are not directly linked in any way and my opinion of Y is based on being told by older generations Z"


Film is soooooo important to youse lot you pretend you cannot read the description of a punch and know it BUT something like power, that's a resume issue is it? That's not stupid? Y'all sure? you sure about that? You sure you haven't been tricked into stupidity?


I am legitimately asking, not just calling you dumb. Do you really think opinion stacked on opinion backed by opinion with credential is not stupid?

 

Tim Witherspoon is an all time top ten heavyweight underachiever .... that is because he rarely had a positive mindset the Holmes fight aside ... Crusher caught him early because he knew it was his only shot after the beating he took in their first bout and Tim never recovered ... Smith was average in speed and not the most talented but his power was serious ...

 

Never said he wasn’t a big puncher. In fact I’ve acknowledged twice in this thread that he was. But overrated as a hitter ? Probably. I would also take the two examples that you used with a grain of salt. Mike weaver was a slow starter. He was 35 years of age. And a much smaller man than smith. That combination lends itself to an understandable early round KO. And as for Witherspoon he came to that rematch with about as much interest in fighting as Richard Simmons came to a pie eating contest with the intent of winning

 

Other than being the only guy to knock out Ortiz, having Fury saved by a ref and saved by the bell in separate fights, and knocking out a bunch of guys who never had that kind of result, and often early, I'd say you made a great point.

 

I don't care about anyone on his record aside from Fury Ortiz because I could go through all of Mike ,George,Earnies records and find the same thing.

Ortiz was old as hell and gassed in the 1st fight more than anything. Fury was saved by the ref so much that Wilder knocked him down in subsequent fights and he got back up so.

 

• Witherspoon was scheduled to defend his title against Tony Tubbs, who withdrew citing a shoulder injury. Against the will of Witherspoon, Smith was substituted by Don King. Witherspoon did not want to fight Smith as he had been training exclusively for Tubbs, and he and Smith had just met a year and a half prior. Thus, Witherspoon threatened to pull out of the match and had been threatened by King with legal action in the week leading up to the fight.
• Bout official on December 6, just six days before the scheduled date.
• Smith entered 16.5 pounds lighter than in his previous bout just four months prior and had been training for a $35,000 fight against Mitch Green. Instead, he received a title shot and a $230,000 payday. Shortly before the bout, it was announced that Smith had signed over 50 percent of promotional contract to Carl King, Don's son.
• The attendance for the bout was only 5,042, which left some 17,000 empty seats. Among those in attendance was Mike Tyson, who after the fight referred to it as a "wonderful punching performance."
• The fight was part of HBO's heavyweight title unification tournament.
• Witherspoon had one of his front teeth, root and all, knocked out in the bout.

Quotes

• "I couldn't get into the fight. I didn't care about it." - Tim Witherspoon
• "I been heavyweight champ of the world twice, and I live in an apartment in Philadelphia I'd be embarrassed for you to see. I got nothing to show for it." - Witherspoon told to a media friend following the bout. He then handed the same person the tooth that had been knocked out as a souvenir.
• "I knew his mind couldn't be on the fight. He wasn't thinking about me. My plan was to be all over him. He embarrassed me the last time and I wanted to pay him back. I did." - James "Bonecrusher" Smith
• "James 'Bonecrusher' Smith showed a dramatic display of physical power, and I just think it was marvelous on his behalf. I'm not surprised. I know when two fighters are in there, anything can happen." - Mike Tyson

Sources

• "Bonecrusher' swarms over distracted Witherspoon" (1986, Dec. 15) The Age p. 32.