Fighters who's records can't be criticised..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bluepete3, Jan 2, 2012.


  1. Bluepete3

    Bluepete3 New Member Full Member

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    I do not post on here much but one of my observations is that almost every fighter who is respected by one fan is very quickly shot down by another for varying reasons I.e. padded records, glass jaw, over-rated etc etc. obviously it is a natural for differences in opinion however I would be interested to see if there are any fighters past or present who get universal praise for the most part?
     
  2. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    No one. Even The GOAT SRR is not immune.
     
  3. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can literally take apart any record and find circumstances of why the result should be diminished.
    From catch weights, pre fight issues, health issues, pre prime, post prime... if you want to you can ruin any record.

    Even the SRRs, SRLs, Durans, Alis etc does not matter ... no record is safe from it sadly.
     
  4. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    You can't do it with whole records, but maybe individual wins.
     
  6. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    In general..
    People agree that Ali's resume is top 3 all time @HW
     
  7. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    None unfortunately
     
  8. its hard to criticize salvador sanchez's record. he was just coming up.
     
  9. Shogun Assassin

    Shogun Assassin Well-Known Member Full Member

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  10. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    True, although it some cases it boils down to people acting absurd about it and wielding a vicious agenda. Of those you mentioned, I find Ali's to be the easiest to crack. Both Liston bouts are forever shrouded in mystery, and the second was an obvious fix, Patterson was post-prime, lost to Frazier at his best in FOTC, accusations of the ring ropes being loosened prior to Foreman which softened the blows for his strategy; Frazier was considered washed up before Thrilla, extremely disputed decisions to Norton (who'd previously broken Ali's jaw and beaten him) and Young, etc etc.

    SRL: Benitez "didn't train", Duran was out of shape, Hearns was weightdrained, Kalule was an early stoppage and Hagler was past it. This feels a lot more ridiculous, however.
     
  11. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Miguel Cotto's record is certifiable and can't be criticized.

    Wladimir Klitschko has fought and beat the best available opposition now for almost 12 yrs.
    Even if a guys has some L's, even devastating L's, if they come back strong like Wlad, Miguel, Pac, etc......IMO, they are immune to criticism.:deal
     
  12. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    Kell Brooks resume is irrefutably top 10 WW, all time.
     
  13. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    SALVADOR SANCHEZ:
    02/80: Danny Lopez (Champion) [42-3, 39 KO] TKO13
    04/80: Ruben Castillo (#2) [47-1, 24 KO] UD15
    06/80: Danny Lopez (#1-3) [42-4, 39 KO] TKO14
    09/80: Patrick Ford (N/A, #5 for '81) [16-0, 10 KO] MD15
    12/80: Juan LaPorte (N/A, #8 for '81) [15-1, 8 KO] UD15
    03/81: Roberto Castanon (#6) [43-1, 24 KO] TKO10
    07/81: Nicky Perez (@130) [50-3] UD10
    08/81: Wilfredo Gomez (#1) [32-0, 32 KO] TKO8
    12/81: Pat Cowdell (N/A, #8 for '82) [19-2, 7 KO] SD15
    05/82: Jorge Garcia (N/A) [23-2] UD15
    07/82: Azumah Nelson (N/A, #6 for '83) [13-0] TKO15

    Lopez, Gomez and Nelson are all comfortably enshrined in the HOF.

    In the case of Castillo, he'd only suffered one defeat and it was to Arguello @ 130. In the case of LaPorte, he'd continue climbing the ratings in the immediate following years and claim a portion of the title; Castanon's only defeat was to Lopez whom Sanchez stopped twice. Wilfredo Gomez was moving up (4 LBS) but was a 2-to-1 favorite. Azumah Nelson didn't lose again for 8 years.

    Yeh, Pretty Fuuckin Good Record.
     
  14. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    This.
     
  15. Davo

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    The lack of blueprint is irrefutable.