Fighters whose greatness may be overrated

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by GB_Boxing, Jul 11, 2017.


  1. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

    7,140
    5,026
    Oct 22, 2015
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,436
    2,839
    Feb 18, 2012
    He got lucky twice then.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,144
    13,100
    Jan 4, 2008
    Comfortably beating Naz, 2-1 against Morales and a razor close fight with Marquez (a toss-up imo) when Barrera was past his best. The Jones and Pac losses non-withstanding, I'd have to say that's h2h elite.
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,144
    13,100
    Jan 4, 2008
    Yeah, have to say he's getting a lot of mileage out of beating only 3 top fighters of the time.

    Same as above, just that he didn't beat any top fighters (as in top 5 at the time). Ok, he looked good against Byrd before he had to pull out, but how far can you go on that? And, yes, he was ahead against Lewis before the cut stopped him, but that was one of poorest version of Lewis. Rahman and McCall beat arguably better versions, and Bruno and Mercer did about as well against arguably better versions.

    The fact is that an old and overweight Lewis who hadn't been in the ring for a year was there to be taken that night, and Vitaly couldn't do it even at his peak.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2017
    lloydturnip and Thread Stealer like this.
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    26,671
    17,726
    Apr 3, 2012
    I think Rigondeaux and Lomachenko would outclass him. Pac did.
     
    Bronze Tiger likes this.
  6. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,618
    552
    Feb 19, 2014
    Ali, Johnson, Camacho, Mancini, Griffith, Carter.
     
    Bronze Tiger likes this.
  7. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

    13,452
    2,990
    Mar 4, 2014
    Marvin Hagler
     
    Bronze Tiger likes this.
  8. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,231
    1,654
    Sep 5, 2016
    Fennick.Great to watch and a good fighter but I didn't by into the great fighter thing .knew Nelson would beat him bad second time around and won a few quid.Nelson was a different class of fighter.
     
    Bronze Tiger and Turnip mk3 like this.
  9. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

    9,020
    3,847
    Nov 13, 2010
    Spot on. Looking at what Liston did up to his championship bouts you can argue he cleaned out the division with the exception of Ingo missing on his resume.

    Wish we could've gotten a conclusive and untainted result in the Ali rematch.
     
  10. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,343
    1,536
    Apr 26, 2015
    Ali was the greatest hwt who ever lived. Fastest fighter ever, great boxer with the chin heart and will to win matched by few. At his best no fighter beats him.
     
  11. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

    9,020
    3,847
    Nov 13, 2010
    Yeah, it's only that Frazier, Norton and Young beat him.
     
    Bronze Tiger likes this.
  12. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,343
    1,536
    Apr 26, 2015
    Post prime.
     
    Bronze Tiger likes this.
  13. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,234
    6,499
    Jan 22, 2009
    Easy one. Hamed. Not even close.
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2017
    Bronze Tiger and robert ungurean like this.
  14. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

    9,020
    3,847
    Nov 13, 2010
    Tyson was post prime against Douglas, so that doesn't count either. ;)
     
    Bronze Tiger likes this.
  15. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,489
    13,037
    Oct 12, 2013
    This content is protected