Fighters whose plan was never influenced after getting HIT?

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  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I'm talking purely about the mental side here.

    I was just rewatching Walcott-Marciano, and it struck me in how impervious Marciano is to taking a shot - when it comes to his mindset. He just keeps on coming and returns just as good as he gets. The man couldn't be discouraged from pouring it on.

    Joe Frazier is another who qualifies. David Tua is someone who could take it physically, but not mentally as we saw against Lewis.


    An example of the opposite would be Evander Holyfield, who often went to slugging instead of boxing after he got tagged by a good shot. It makes for exciting fights, but not the best strategy on his part, and it cost him against Riddick Bowe. He seemed to wise up later, most famously against Tyson.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Many fighters lose their cool after being hit, as if it's audacious for their opponents to even consider hitting them. Erik Morales was the ultimate return fire fighter.

    But who didn't come unravelled and change their tactics/gameplan?

    Hmm.

    Sans the Bruno fight I never saw a punch change McCall's gameplan. He was literally like a robot programmed to do one thing over and over and over again. Even in the Bruno fight he came on and out of his shell eventually.
     
  3. Robbi

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    Bernard Hopkins. Most other fighters would easily have got drawn into a slugfest against Trinidad during the early rounds. While Hopkins did start to move through the gears around the halfway stage, he still had discipline, and defense was on his mind while trading. Gradually taking Trinidad apart was always going to be part of Hopkins' gameplan. Fighting cautious around the perimeter of the ring in a similar manner to De La Hoya's tactical gamset against Trinidad wasn't authoritive enough for Hopkins' liking. With Trinidad always the type to be advancing towards his opponent, straight up and down, it was just a matter of time before Hopkins unleashed his heavy artillery.

    The way Hopkins fought Calzaghe was always going to be done the way it was. Standing and slugging it out would have been very foolish, considering Calzaghe's workrate and combinations. Some other fighters with Hopkins' durability would have taken more punches than he did just to get some leather in themselves. Hopkins simply doesn't like to get hit for the sake of landing shots of his own, regardless if his opponent packs a wallop or not. Hopkins is smart enough to know that taking clean punches scores with the judges in favor of his opponent.

    When this worked against him was against Taylor. He should have actually became an aggressor for the rematch. He made the same mistake he made the first time, which was being too tame. He never learned his lesson.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Mostly you are going to get swarmer answers.

    LaMotta is the definitive example IMO.

    Muhammad Ali is a different example, but a good one - his lunatic tactics in Zaire.
     
  5. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Have you seen the Lewis rematch? :shock:
     
  6. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Does Zab come into the equasion??? he he he...
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Roberto Duran for the vast part.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Carlos Monzon especially.
     
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    mcvey VIP Member

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    Excellent call ,maybe the definitive one!

    He should have been called Sangfroid Sanchez
     
  14. CottoDaBodykill

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    pernel whitikar when he did get tagged never seemed to go off his game plan
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    when did he get hit though