Fighters whose popularity personality, and overall presence, belies their actual boxing ability?

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  1. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Active Member Full Member

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    It's surprising that Holyfield, who is older than Mike and started earlier, didn't dominate this weak era. It's surprising that Frank Bruno, who was beaten three times in the 1980s, didn't become champion until the mid-1990s, clearly past his prime, just like George Foreman.
    It's also strange that Larry Holmes didn't capitalize on this era's weakness by losing his titles and appearing finished during the Tyson era, only to suddenly re-emerge after turning 40 in the 1990s.
    It seems that the 1980s were weak only for Tyson, but the 35-year-old Holmes couldn't hold the title, and the 37-year-old Foreman was ridiculed.
     
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  2. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali by a mile
     
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  3. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson is the best ever. His issues outside the ring affected his career.
     
  4. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    Did Ali even actually refer to himself as the greatest in the 70's though, maybe after he whooped Foreman, but by the time his presence was winning fights he was pretty much over it himself

    The thing with Tyson was he was basically a machine that could only perform at its best with Cus/Rooney pulling the levers, no matter how high performance 88 Tyson was the whole thing had a one dimensionality to it, a technical masterpiece that could perform one way and one way only
     
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  5. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not even close.
    His issues out of the ring were almost entirely self inflicted as well. He was an idiot.
    At least he’s matured now.
     
  6. Mandela2039

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  7. Yorbals

    Yorbals Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali was the greatest heavyweight in the best era for heavyweights, lightning fast hands and feet.
    Had a lay off in perhaps his best years, came back having lost much of his speed and proved he was still the best and showed he had the best chin, heart and grit as well.
    He was larger than life but his actual ability isn’t that far away from his legend. Maybe not the greatest boxer but certainly the best heavyweight.
     
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    Deontay Wilder, Jorge Paez, Ray Mancini, Frank Bruno, Hector Camacho (post Rosario), David Haye