Fighters whose resume unfortunately doesn't match their ability

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Virgil Hill comes to mind.

    Micheal Spinks. Michael Moorer.

    Light Heavy divisions been pretty meh for both fighters, and they cleaned it out completely.
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    spinks had a good resume.

    johnson, qawi, mustafa, sutherland, davis, holmes @ hw.

    that was in just 32 fights.
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    True, I guess he lacked a career defining fight is what I meant, and he was blown out in seconds in the biggest fight of his career.

    Left some question marks around him.
     
  4. 4Rounder

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    John Ruiz

    Good resume, shitty fighter.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He had the talent ,but not the ticker.
     
  6. Robbi

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    McCallum had some great wins, but he never beat many marquee names. Watson wasn't as popular as Benn and Eubank, and you could argue he was on par with both strictly as a fighter, maybe better. Collins was another decent opponent who he beat, but Collins never hit his peak as a fighter until a few years after McCallum beat him.

    Jones was probably the biggest marquee name McCallum fought, but he was years past his best and hitting 40 years of age, while Jones was around his peak and "pound for pound" the best. Bad timing.

    Agreed. McCallum does have an underrated resume. The reasons why are obvious. Maybe his career would have hit bigger heights in terms of money and popularity if he had beaten Duran when it was on the cards back in 1984. Duran was stripped of his WBA jr-midddleweight title for opting to fight Hearns instead of McCallum.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Howard never came good on his Olympic games promise. He was my favourite lightweight for many years and had me pulling my damn hair out. Believe it or not he was actually avoided for a time mid career. Until Camacho came along he was the fastest fighter on planet, blinding speed. Mid career he put a lot of work into fighting a little more flat footed and adding power, he had a fine stoppage over a quite decent Candyman Coverson under this new mindset and looked the best he ever had. He got his shot vs Rosario and was really in good form, but a last 10 second or less knockdown saw him narrowly miss the decision. By the time he fought Taylor and Camacho he was well past it. I better add he had a pretty suspect chin tho, but he fought on well after KD's many times and was one of the better fighters not to win a title in the more modern era.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Question marks? Spinks was no great heavyweight and did himself proud in beating an underdone aged Holmes the first time. The Tyson loss takes bugger all away from you.


    As far as career defining fights, his unification battle vs Braxton was the biggest fight seen at 175 in many years and he fought a superb tactical battle to win. Spinks is a top 5 175 ATG and has plenty of fine wins there.
     
  9. Sonny's jab

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    Cleveland Williams.

    I dont think he has wins over many of the bigger name heavyweights on his record, and mostly has what looks like a somewhat padded puncher's record. On paper.

    But watching his fights with Liston, both of which he got knocked out in, he looks VERY GOOD, not just a heavy bomber, but a quick, agile, thinking boxer-puncher.
    Williams looks very capable, very talented.
     
  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    A 90 second loss takes plenty away from you.
     
  11. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He does look very good in the Liston fights...One thing I've often wondered about was his KO loss to Bob Satterfield...Granted, Satterfield was a huge puncher, but you wouldn't think that he would have the size to kayo Cleveland Williams! :huh
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Satterfield has the power to KO just about anyone from what I've heard.
     
  13. Minotauro

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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Right. McCallum was done for when he fought Toney and Jones. Not the same as the old Body Snatcher of old.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Only at Heavyweight, it takes absolutely nothing away from him at 175. I wonder if you know much about Spinks, especially at 175, you mentioned he had no career defining fights and nothing could be further from the truth. His unification battle at 175 was massive and he was the first 175 champion to ever win the heavyweight crown, how those two can't be called defining fights i will never understand.