Fighters With Little To No Heart...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Russell, Oct 9, 2009.


  1. Axl_Nose

    Axl_Nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson had heart, nobody takes what he took off Holyfield in that first fight if you havent got heart .. He was entrenched in a bully mentality though, only ever really comfortable when he's coming forward, never happy on the back foot, so when he did have to back off he was there to get beaten up. Im not sure why Naz is being labelled a guy with no heart, he took shots and always got up from a knockdown, i'd question his level of opposition but that was down to HBO ..
    Freitas lacked something in the ticker department, question marks also about,

    Cotto against Margarito
    Tzsyu against Hatton
    Vitali against Byrd
    Michael Moorer

    But hey i have the ultimate respect for all fighters so for me to suggest a lack of heart in fighters doesnt really sit right with me ..
    I dont think Cotto in particular likes a tough fight, he seems to only be comfortable if he's controlling the pace of the fight, that Margarito fight was a fairly quick turn around from when Cotto was on top ..
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tyson had heart but Cotto's face at the end of the Margarito fight doesn't scream that he had heart hanging in there up until that point. :lol:

    GTFO, seriously.

    While you're at it go watch Moorer's slugfest with Bert Cooper.
     
  3. ClintMagnum

    ClintMagnum Antitheist Full Member

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    Worst thread ever. Any of you so called "boxing fans" who come onto a forum and calls professional fighters "cowards" or challenge their lack of heart are utter pricks. End of.
     
  4. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How the **** didnt Moorer have heart? He never quit in brutal fights against Cooper, and Holyfield!
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    We're talking about little to no heart in comparison to boxers with multitudes of it, you over sensitive ****ing nancy.
     
  6. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. Moorer had heart and more so than that he always had 100% confidence that he could knock his opponent out, thus he never got discouraged in a fight he was losing.

    Even after losing to Foreman he showed heart against Holyfield (the second time), Botha, Jirov.

    If you were to say he had little dedication outside the ring then you might be right but inside the ring he showed heart numerous times.
     
  7. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    Well said, buddy. You and the physicist have said it all.

    This pic of Argüello and Escalera is very moving to me. They both look great, smiling like the best of friends, without a care in the world. What an extraordinary fight they gave us.

    I still can't fully believe, nor, as a fan, will ever cease to mourn Alexis' departure this year.
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I tend to think that any fighter who cuts it at world level must have substantial reserves of what we call heart.

    Just standing in front of the audience must be intimidating enough.

    Ever given a presentation to a group that size who were likley to turn hostile?
     
  9. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Presentations don't usually have police officers and misc guards keeping a watch either. :good
     
  10. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    More of a **** really. My old man knows him, as he grew up in the same area and he has always been a ****.

    He is always in the news for doing dumb **** like bashing fruit market workers, dogging his best mates and stealing watches etc...
     
  11. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wtf?.
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    So, he should have continued with bleeding on the brain just to show some internet wags that he had heart?
     
  13. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tszyu was a beast, fought tough comp' from the start ducked no one and fought pretty much all his career overseas in the other guys backyard.

    I don't know how he lacked heart?, there is no shame in calling it quits and keeping your health, as these guys have to have a life after their careers are over.
     
  14. LeonMcS

    LeonMcS The Mayor of Kronkton Full Member

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    Been reading a book about 90s heavyweights and the name Yuri Vaulin came up. I remember him being around years ago but never saw any of his fights, the example mentioned about him was the John Sargent fight when he quit in the last round despite having a healthy lead on points.

    But like a few have mentioned previously, I don't feel good commenting on others percieved lack of heart when I've never even laced them on myself.
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    the beating he soaked up from Chavez over 12 rounds absolves Camacho from all charges that he had no heart. He was a major underachiever and a disappointment as regarding not living up to his potential, but the guy proved he had all the heart in the world vs Chavez.