Fighters with the gift of stamina/conditioning

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Saintpat, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jun 26, 2009
    All fighters of a certain level train hard and are, more often than not at least, in shape (especially compared to non-athletes, and really compared to most athletes in other sports).

    But some had a gift for it. They took it to another level. They could endure the kind of training that raised their endurance to ridiculous heights. They fought through fatigue to find a second win, and a third and fourth if necessary.

    Who are some who strike you this way? I’ll cite a couple of examples and let the forum have its say:

    1) Rocky Marciano. Dude was a conditioning freak. If he was of only average championship shape I don’t think he’d have been the fighter he was.

    2) Troy Dorsey. Kickboxing background, not a stylist or particularly correct fighter by the book. But Troy would start punching when the first bell rang and at the end he was still punching at the same pace. Do what you will, you wouldn’t wear him out nor dent his will.

    Who else ya got?
  2. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

    Oct 12, 2020
    Pattern here is usually the hardest worker. Emile Griffth worked till he was peeled to the bone and he never tired.

    Harada trained so hard to make up for a perceived lack of talent and could breathe easy after a long fight.

    I’ve never really seen Mayweather tire against even larger men. Frazier was as honest and hard working as they came.

    Can anyone think of a fighter who was quite literally gifted with great lungs?
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  3. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jan 19, 2016
    Some of the Mexican guys - Sanchez, Chavez, Canto. Maybe the high altitude they lived at helped.
  4. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya Member Full Member

    Aug 15, 2021
    From what I have seen on films I would add Joe Frazier in his prime.
  5. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Active Member Full Member

    Jun 7, 2015
    Joe Joyce has unreal lungs for a huge man. Cardio is mostly earned but there might be some genetics involved and also being relaxed in the ring helps.
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  6. The Fighting Yoda

    The Fighting Yoda Active Member Full Member

    Jan 5, 2021
    I think alltime greats like Harry Greb (The Pittsburgh Windmill) or Henry Armstrong (Hurricane Henry). To be so successful and to earn such nicknames you simply have to be in an absolutely outstanding condition (and many other fighters weren’t lazy as well).
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    Vito Antuofermo
    Jeff Fenech
  8. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

    Jan 28, 2018
    No, Floyd never seemed tired in any of his fights. One of his many great gifts (and I don’t care for the guy) was his ability to fight relaxed, as well as always being in top shape. But that doesn’t necessarily mean he had a great engine; he very economical in his output. That, combined with his other strengths I mentioned give the appearance of superior stamina.
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  9. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

    Jan 28, 2018
  10. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 16, 2019
    Alexis Arguello, Archie Moore, Muhammad Ali in his peak years (1964-1967), there was no Rope A Dope, and Carlos Monzon, (1 pack a day smoker during training), he could go 15 rounds if need be.
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  11. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Sep 21, 2013

    I'd love to see his cardio/conditioning routine.
  12. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Sep 21, 2013
    Manny Pac, Joe Calzaghe & Juan Diaz.

    As far as modern fighters go, these guys are in a league of their own.

    Their workrate & output were unmatched.
  13. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    May 30, 2019
    Henry Armstrong is a clear choice.

    How about Battling Nelson or Terry McGovern?
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  14. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    More than Terry McGovern would probably be George Dixon, for someone with a great workmate late in the fight. (Late as in well past when a modern fight would end)
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  15. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

    Jun 28, 2009
    I'd add Saldivar to that group too, Eddie.