Fighters YOU Are Guilty Of Overating

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    I'm in a debate where someone thinks the Camach fight should be held against Leonard. I reserve the right to make **** up.
     
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  2. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not of my time, (Honest) but Freddie Mills was a hugely significant figure in immediate post war British Boxing. He was the country's first post war World Champion.
    Old timers would rave about Freddie but in all the film I have seen of him, he is unbelievably crude, open and hittable. Mills undoubtedly had ridiculous courage and carried some power in his right hand but after the years of hearing him described as some sort of super human, he came as a bit of a disappointment.
     
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  3. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No way
     
  4. Devon

    Devon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why? He beat everyone he could and didn’t fight pacquiao for ages only because it took years for Pacquiao to agree to vada testing
     
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  5. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am more of thinking that he avoided fighting Pacquiao until he stopped being the beast that he was.

    Mayweather doesnt enter in my top 15 in history and for me he lost the first fight with Castillo.
    Im not a hater but this is my opinion
     
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  6. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You might be right here. But I always felt the Jacobs and Canelo fights occurred clearly when he was past his best.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rejected.

    You need to maintain your high standards and not allow yourself be be dragged down to such a level however common.
     
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  8. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually was going to write this in another post.
     
  9. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, that was the last time I believe. His profile page that day said "GOOD BYE 3/19/21" and was addressed to a number of members.
     
  10. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hey my friend, How are you doing?
     
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  11. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike Tyson - Prime Tyson did look unbeatable at times but it has to be admitted that he would have a tough time against certain guys even in his prime. Nobody is unbeatable and Tyson would definitely have his hands full with a prime Foreman, Ali, Liston, and others.

    Roy Jones Jr - Another guy who looked unbeatable in his prime but his resume wasn't the best. And we'll never know how good his chin really was because he never got hit until after he came down from heavyweight. Again nobody is unbeatable and Jones looked unbeatable but the reality is that some of his opponents were low in class so they made him look unbeatable.

    Muhammad Ali - The truth is that Ali had many controversial wins. I still rate him very highly H2H and on the all time heavyweight list but the second Liston fight, the third Norton fight, the Jimmy Young fight, the Foreman fight, and others are controversial.
     
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  12. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ya that reminded me of Ali Wepner
     
  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Triple G a little.

    Pernell Whitaker he was my favorite fighter but his resume at 135 isn't exactly a who's who of lightweight challenges.
     
  14. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    There are some fans like myself that have resentments against the way he used his power. His star power. He had advantages. There are also some fans that will excuse anything and defend Leonard because he was the Golden Boy. Works both ways.
    For those of us not a fan Ray gave us alot to work with.

    Strictly as a boxer, darn near as good as it gets in his prime. His ability and skills top shelf. A top 5 Welter no question.
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Okay, I'll be honest. I got the knock-downs mixed up and thought the one Hearns scored on Benitez was the one where **** all happened and it was ruled a slip, but Benitez landed an overhand which put Hearns down. I rewatched it, and this isn't the case.

    Either way, Hearns did not beat Benitez any more decisively than Leonard did.
     
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