Fighters you believe were at there absolute best against Floyd Mayweather

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  1. Flea Man

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    And, he was weight drained.
     
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    As for Hatton, he wasn't able to muscle around someone as strong as he.

    It shows off Floyd's (IMO underrated) physical strength, but also shows why Ricky's main attribute was redundant before the fight even started.
     
  3. Hatton was showing signs of wear and tear by late 2007.

    He squared up to easily and his head movement had gone.
     
  4. Flea Man

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    Agreed. Saying that, at his absolute optimum Floyd would tool him.

    You see how poor Floyd's ring record is when you're clinging on to Corrales, Hatton, Manfredy and Judah being 'at their best'.
     
  5. Lilo

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    Arguably JMM's best performance was at welter against Pac so add him to the list.

    :deal
     
  6. Aye, the fight being at 147 favoured Hatton as much as it did Floyd, who was more negative back then at the weight.

    A 2005 peak vs peak matchup at 140 would have been a similar type fight, Hatton would probably have a bit more joy and get hit less early, but still be broken down and probably stopped.

    It does my head in when people say ''Hatton couldn't fight at 147'', he absolutely could. He'd just never beat Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto etc - and wouldn't have at 140 either.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    He was drinking ****. He also added a strength coach to his preparations for Pacqiuao III.

    By Floyds own criteria, by coming in over the weight whilst imposing a catchweight on Marquez the win is redundant :yep
     
  8. Lilo

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    At that time you kinda had a segregation:

    Elite - Floyd
    A Class - Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, P-Will...
    B Class - Hatton (the best of the B's)
    C - the rest

    I've said it before but I remember an interview with Hatton where he was really up for a Cotto fight, like he really felt he had his number or that he'd seen something he could exploit. There was a quote along the lines of "I'll break his heart" or something. I'd've liked to see it.

    EDIT: He thought he saw something in Paq though - "same move, everytime!"
     
  9. Flea Man

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    I'm pretty sure he would beat Miguel at 140. At 147? No F'n chance.

    Mosley? Margarito? Williams? This is why Ricky wasn't one of the best fighters around this weight at the time.
     
  10. Yeah, he probably would have saying that. He'd have broken Cotto down with body shots and put him out of his misery in the middle/late rounds.... he wasn't mature enough or strong enough at the weight to deal with Hatton at his best.

    I'd have liked to have seen Hatton against Margarito, just something inside me tells me he'd have pulled it off. He had better legs than Cotto, which would be key. Of course he'd just laugh at Ricky's punches mind.

    Mosley would have executed him, probably inside the first three minutes. Not a good matchup at all for Wicky I'm afraid.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Nah, Ricky would be absolutely ill-equipped to beat Toni', who would walk through and execute him.

    Ricky certainly had faster feet than Miguel, but he was no more elusive. Think about the mid-to-late rounds to Collazo. Give Ricky a full welterweight training camp like he did against Floyd and he still gets massacred!
     
  12. Lilo

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    Remember at this time Margy has loaded gloves too!
     
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    Taking away his early 140 days , which by and large he was still learning an developing a record , tell me when Cotto has been more mobile and as physically strong as he was against his toughest opponent on Saturday night ???

    Had that been anybody else from 147 - 154 including Pacquiao , Cotto was putting a hurt on somebody !!!

    Ive never seen Cotto move like that , right up until the point where Cotto began to slow down a touch i beleive that to be the best Cotto to date , based on performance , not based on who's TKO'd him in the past or wear and tear , IMHO its a very clear observation
     
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    Thats obviously a joke , i agree its very funny ..........................