Fighters you believe were at there absolute best against Floyd Mayweather

He was at his best when he beat Mosley IMO.

Pacqiuao was his best opponent and he got demolished. Floyd's style did not trouble him like pressure does, and didn't push Cotto back like Shane, Toni' or Manny did, so we saw a return to consistent forward moving from Cotto like 140, but with the strength and culture of his later days. Floyd mixed up his approach well I thought, against a guy with the gameplan to cause him hassle, and surprisingly despite a big handspeed deficit, was able to catch him.

All in all I thought both put on great performances, and, surprisingly, I rank this as a very good win for Floyd and I loved the performance. Considering Cotto's form over the last few years (Foreman wasn't a good fighter, Mayorga and Margo names) I didn't think he'd be this sharp but he was.

Has made me a fan of him again, like I was pre-Baldomir. He's fighting to his level again IMO, and it's great to see.

 

Hatton doesn't beat Cotto in a month of Sundays, at 140 or 147 and it's a good job for Ricky they never fought. Tsyzu aside, Ricky never beat anyone who was anywhere near as good as Cotto.

 

Cotto was nowhere near his best, his resume at 154 is absolutely rubbish, he beat Yuri Foreman who was putting up a fight until he was crippled, Foreman would get absolutely demolished by C-level pawel Wolak in his very next fight. He then fought 39 year old completely shot Mayorga in an uninspiring victory before defeating a shot and one eye Margarito who hadnt won a round in about 3 years (other than against a lower level boxer).

Before that he was destroyed by Pacquaio, won a 50/50 with Clottey, beat up on Jennings who was nowhere near world level and was beaten to a pulp in a classic against Margarito.

So how is this near to the best version of Cotto considering at 140 he beat Mosley, Judah, Quintana, Malignaggi, Maussa, Ndou, Bailey, Abdullaev, Torres, Branco and Gomez.

You can make the argument that Corrales was mentally shot when he went into the fight but to be fair that isn't Floyds fault so it was a good fight when it was made.

Hatton looks peak on paper but he had a lot of wear and tear going into the fight and his only other trip north saw him effectively beat by a B-level Collazo.

Mosley was shot but it was everyones 2nd favourite fight for him to take at the time so can't give him that much stick for it at the time although he should have fought him years earlier.

You could argue Ortiz was at his peak but its hard to say with a brain dead boxer like Ortiz as his form comes and goes.

Baldomir was on the best run of his career.

Zab had dropped a UD to Baldomir going into the fight so not sure if he counts either.

 

He beat Judah, Mosley, Urkal at 147 I believe.

 

Corley loses to Judah. Fights Corley.
Judah loses to Baldomir. Fights Judah.
Victor Ortiz atsch

Also, why is everyone saying 'Cotto was amazing'. Could it not be 'Floyd is not as great as everyone thinks?' :hey

 

yeah your right but it was a continued run from moving up so I'll still count it, his peak ended to the plaster hands of Margarito and then was taken down another notch when he was obliterated by Pacquaio.

He has done well since against lower level fighters and deserves credit for his performance against Floyd as does Floyd but lets not pretend that Cotto was at his prime or even a beast at the weight as neither are true.

Another thing that got on my nerves is the fact people kept referring to Cotto as a far bigger boxer when Floyd is taller than him and has a far bigger reach advantage. Sure Cotto was a few pounds heavier and is more acclimatised at the weight but they are pretty much the same size in stature.

 

I actually think Floyd looked bigger. It's absolute bull**** that he came in at 147, he looked bigger than Cotto. He was not far off him either way.

Floyd looks like he could handle the physical challenge of Sergio Martinez IMO.

 

He wouldn't. Not at all. Cotto would muller Hatton at any weight.

 

This thread is proof that every single win can he discredited.

 

Nah, not at 140. Cotto was drained there.

 

I suppose it can. Mayweather had a habit of waiting till he had a distinct advantage over an opponent. At least with the Judah fight I understood why he took it, since he was more of a challenge than Baldomir, despite having beaten Judah.

But you can track two distinct things with Mayweather - the two best opponents he's faced, Oscar and Cotto at 154, have given him problems. When both committed to the jab, they had their moments. Cotto's best round came because he used his jab consistently.

Then look at how quickly Floyd figured out Ortiz - Floyd looks excellent against the lesser guys - the Hattons, the Ortizs of the world. He looks less than stellar when he faces guys at or near the elite skill level.

 

Later on, but he's still more rounded than Hatton. Trust me, he'd have massacred him.

 

Fair dues, read the post wrong.

Still though I would say Cottos win over Mosley was a better performance than his defeat against Mayweather. I think a lot of people were expecting him to get destroyed on Saturday and he has gone up a lot in peoples minds but for me the fight pretty much played out exactly as I expecte it to go.

Cotto is a fading elite level boxer so I expected him to make it a solid fight against a guy who is a superior boxer. mayweather has no knockout power up there so I knew it would be a wide UD so for me Cotto didn't do any better than I thought he would do. A career best performance for him would have been to have won, guy at his level should be able to give Floyd a solid fight even if he lost wide so imo he did not excel himself on Saturday.

if you get my point.