Fighters you dislike due to their fanbase.

boxingexpert733 · Feb 18, 2024

Rubber Glove Sandwich said: ↑

I mean "dominated" is a bit strong of a word but you could certainly make reasonable scorecards for him winning all 4.
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boxrec average fan scorecards has him losing every fight but the 4th one.

BoxingFan2002 · Feb 18, 2024

Sonny Liston, Cleveland Williams, Pac Man, Mike Tyson, Klitchkos...

Rubber Glove Sandwich · Feb 18, 2024

boxingexpert733 said: ↑

boxrec average fan scorecards has him losing every fight but the 4th one.
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And? Pacquiao has way more fans who are more likely to score it for Pacquiao than they are for Marquez. What's your argument here? That majority automatically = correct?

boxingexpert733 · Feb 18, 2024

Rubber Glove Sandwich said: ↑

And? Pacquiao has way more fans who are more likely to score it for Pacquiao than they are for Marquez. What's your argument here? That majority automatically = correct?
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More correct than individual pacquiao haters/floyd fans on this forum. Boxrec averages the scores of hundreds of individuals. Also most users of that website are from western countries so there’s hardly any favoritism towards pacquiao over Marquez

ChrisJS · Feb 18, 2024

boxingexpert733 said: ↑

boxrec average fan scorecards has him losing every fight but the 4th one.
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Pacquaio has a lot more fans and unreasonable fans at that.

boxingexpert733 · Feb 18, 2024

ChrisJS said: ↑

Pacquaio has a lot more fans and unreasonable fans at that.
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if that was true, then the average fan scorecard for pacquiao fan scorecard for pacquiao vs morales 1 wouldn't be 116-112 for morales. And for the Mayweather fight, the average was 117-111 mayweather.

https://www.similarweb.com/website/boxrec.com/#geography

According to the link above, most traffic comes from america and the UK where there's more floyd fans than pacquiao fans who would be more inclined to like marquez if anything (its like how canelo fans want beterbiev to beat bivol)

KINGWILDER · Feb 18, 2024

Glass City Cobra said: ↑

For me, #1 is definitely Pacquiao, because of his cult like fan base. Imagine giving a fighter and his family death threats just because they beat your guy (Bradley). Imagine having your mom show up shouting voodoo curses at your opponent. Imagine being butthurt and dismissing a legendary KO win as a "lucky punch" even though it landed earlier and was clearly a brilliant counter (Marquez). Imagine being part of the biggest fight of the decade and, after being completely outboxed, you claim your opponent "did nothing", then claim you had a major injury but failed to disclose it, then claim God healed your shoulder, and a bunch of other nonsense instead of just taking your L like a man (Mayweather).

It's a very noticeable and consistent pattern where both Pacquiao and his fanboys are unable to give any opponents any credit. It's not just the extreme fans either, they're like an ant colony all repeating the same talking points whilst insulting anyone who disagrees. Pac himself is no saint and it makes being a fan of his very difficult. It didn't help that the media and pundits such as Jim Lampley verbally sucked him off every 5 seconds.

#2 is probably Tyson Fury. It's amazing how much mileage a fan base gets out of a boring game of tag with a 40 year old man and a trilogy with a mindless puncher who has a paper thin resume. Fury doesn't even have enough common sense to try and be subtle with how he brainwashes his fans the way Pacquiao, LeBron, etc do, he goes on camera telling the drones exactly what to believe like he's giving a sermon. Also unlike Pacquiao (who at least has a stellar hall of Fame worthy career fighting so many of the best fighters), Fury has squandered his talent and fought very few elite opponents.

Retiring right after winning the title is unforgivable, I don't buy his mental health nonsense which didn't get brought up until years later when he wanted to regain relevance and have a cool sports movie comeback story. He simply did what a lot of young champions do and got on drugs/alcohol/gorging on food because he reached the mountaintop and didn't have the discipline and class to respect the championship. Wasting the fans time refusing to rematch Wilder when he was legally bound to was unforgivable. Lying about catching COVID and being caught at a casino was unforgivable. Fighting a C level plodder like Chisora 3x when he had so many better options such as Parker, Ruiz, Joshua, etc was unforgivable. And the most recent offense was delaying the Usyk fight not once, but twice. It is mind boggling this guy hasn't had his title stripped, and it's also funny how all the PED allegations and crime affiliations just keep getting swept under the rug. He's a dirty fighter, a terrible champion, and a con artist degenerate whose taking advantage of his fan base who are full of similarly degenerate and/or slow individuals or trolls who know what the deal is but play along anyways. I do not care who wins between him and Usyk, but I cannot wait for him to just go away.

There's a few others who could make a top 10 list such as Tank Davis, Mike Tyson, Duran, Rocky Marciano, etc, but the difference is the fighters themselves aren't nearly as bad as their fans. They also have more than a handful of reasonable fans who don't claim they can walk on water. The difference is, Pac and Fury actively contribute to the toxic nonsense and are well aware of what they're doing. Canelo is another one and probably #3, he could get his own thread. The funny thing about Canelo is his fans seem to be the minority in hardcore boxing forums/sites/etc, he has a firm grasp on the casual market so you rarely see them coming out in droves making ridiculous claims.
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Great post mate, I honestly think at this point Fury’s fanbase may surpass Pacquaio’s in terms of being the worst ever. Both still suck imo.

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