Fighting guys that wait...

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  1. ticklegore

    ticklegore Hearns forever Full Member

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    Some of my sparring partners stay out of range and wait till I come in throwing a few punches, then they immediately retaliate.
    I usually can get my hands by my face quick enough to block the counters but I can't move out of the way quickly enough. Does this mean I should work on my footspeed or is this stuff unavoidable?

    And are there certain tactics to fight a "waiter"?
     
    ticklegore, Sep 17, 2009
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  2. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Feint. Make them counter, make them miss, and finally make them pay.
     
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  3. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    Sounds like something teddy atlas would say
     
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  4. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    It does :)

    I like the old boxing cliches. Make em miss make em pay, stick and move, never hook with a hooker, etc.
     
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  5. Power

    Power Active Member Full Member

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    counter a counter puncher lol
     
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  6. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    A useful thread, see the final part of the first post.

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132033[/url]
     
    RDJ, Sep 18, 2009
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  7. ticklegore

    ticklegore Hearns forever Full Member

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    Than can definitely work from time to time but the thing is: the waiters I'm talking about wait till you ended a combination and have moved forward, THEN they start punching.

    It goes like this.
    -He's staying out of range, too far away for me to hit him.
    -I need to step in with a few jabs to get close enough to throw my right hand.
    -After I throw my right hand he attacks.
    -I NEED a double guard ("peek a boo") to block the shots. I can't get out of the way fast enough.
    -Due to that double guard I can hardly see shots coming and I don't know when to counter.

    Maybe I should just work on focusing while in a double guard though. But still; I'd like to just find a way to be out of range quick enough, And not having to do the same thing over and over.
     
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  8. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Then throw a few jabs to get close, feint a right hand to get him to counter, and counter whatever he throws yourself. If you can predict his actions, you can cash in on it.
     
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  9. Power

    Power Active Member Full Member

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    there's a guy at my gym who waits till you throw and then throws back in combo's to. all i do is throw move throw move throw move and he can never get into the routine and gets frustrated. But when i see him with other people its like a tennis game there back and forth in the ring all day long. just got to throw your shots and move. When i say move i dont mean move in a straight line back wards i mean throw a shot then spin of to the side etc. usually these guys are only good in moving back and forth and it takes them a while to ajust to movement but by then your thowing shots again
     
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  10. karatekid530

    karatekid530 Milwaukee's Best Full Member

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    im a waiter. swarming gives me fits at first til i get used to the pace. if you can swarm and get the job done quickly that would be my advice to you. also, how well can you take a punch? cuz you'll prolly walk into a few doing that.
     
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  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    angles

    punch and move

    get in with your jab and side step round and come in with some shots then move out. Angles!

    lots of feints to keep them guessing the angles.
     
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  12. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he waits for you to finish a combo.... DON'T FINISH!

    Move in with the jab, and just wail away for a bit. Don't give him time to think, draw him into a slugfest. "Waiters" hate that!
    When you are tired and can't punch, just clinch.
     
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  13. bobalachko

    bobalachko Active Member Full Member

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    :good
     
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  14. ticklegore

    ticklegore Hearns forever Full Member

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    Well I'm not a swarmer at all. I'm usually a waiter myself but I like to back my opponent up with the jab too so that I'm still on the offence. I'm an outside boxer though.

    Well I don't have the stamina to throw endless combinations and we don't clinch. In the AMs clinching is frowned upon anyway.
    Also they don't nessecarily wait for me to finish; they can just interrupt my combo too and I don't react well to that.
    I can take punches well meaning I don't easily get dazed or hurt, but when someone interrupts me and hits me square in the face, I tend to freeze and cover up.

    Very true, sparring went very well today because I slipped, pivoted and punched from angles a lot.
     
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  15. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Instead of covering up you could slip or duck. It causes them to miss, and you can capitalize on that. You jab your way in, feint a right hand, duck the counter that inevitably follows, and take over.
     
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