Fighting Harada v Naseem Hamed

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    When was Hamed's chin tested? In which fight? I have a hunch Hammed was hiding an average chin, which usually is not a problem in the lower weights.

    Hamed hit very hard and was hard to hit so he did not take many big shots. Fighters rarely walk away from boxing at age 28 when they are near the top. So why did Hammed retire?

    I think Hammed was exposed a bit in the Kelly fight. After Barrera defeated him, I believe Hammed could not stomach the thought of losing to a lesser fighter so he decided to retire before it happened. I’m not saying Hammed had no bottle, but I am saying he didn’t like the rough stuff at the top level, and due to his exposure, he knew he would be in those type of fights.
     
  2. ThePlugInBabies

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    like i said in my previous post. once he hit america he started to believe his own hype, he felt like he didn't have to work for the W anymore and could just turn up and smash his opponent out no questions asked.

    he took the MAB defeat badly and at that point didn't have the motivation to come back and work his way back to the top again.
     
  3. Mantequilla

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    Harada would beat him easily then lose any rematches as he was only good for that one last performance at featherweight.
     
  4. Sardu

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    Both of the Jofre fights were over in Japan which makes me very suspicious. They were both very close fights from what I vaguely heard years ago and Jofre was not pleased, needless to say, about the verdicts. Hamed was an explosive puncher and quite awkward. In many fights that unorthodax style helped to confuse his opponents. One mistake could be your last against Hamed - he was exceptionally heavyhanded. However, Haranda was so exceptional, durable, never stopped punching. Hamed would exhausted late in the fight. If it is 12 then Haranda wins a UD. If it's 15 rounds he stops the prince.
     
  5. NickHudson

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    This is how I see it too.

    The Hamed of the last few years of his career was an accident waiting to happen.

    He had stopped training properly, and was becoming more and more reliant on bravado, image and single hard shots.

    The Hamed that fought Robinson in the mid-90s was really something.

    Of course, I recognise with Hamed (as with so many unstoppable forces who eventually lose) it is hard to determine how much of the loss is self-deterioration and how much is increased quality of opponent.

     
  6. Raging B(_)LL

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    Harada wins this, and convincingly at that be it by decision or late stoppage. The one caveat would be that he would only be able to pull it off once, because as Mantequilla said Harada only had one good effort left in him by the time he moved up to feather. A shame really as he showed in the first Famechon fight that he could carry the additional weight well without diminishing his workrate or speed significantly. In the return it just seemed like he grew old overnight, and with each passing round he looked more and more like a shot fighter. But give me the Harada from their first fight and he would do some number on the frontrunner Hamed.
     
  7. Doppleganger

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    Absolutely untrue. Hamed was clocked a few times and was never noticeably hurt or stunned. Whilst it's difficult to say how good his chin was, it certainly could not be considered just average.

    He was only hard to hit when he used the Brendan Ingle switch hitting style. Once he started to rely on power he became quite easy to hit.

    No. Hamed retired basically because he became bored with the sport and enjoyed the trappings of wealth too much.

    BTW I don't know who would win the fight but I do know that Fighting Harada better have had a good chin because it sounds like it would have been tested.
     
  8. Cabannero

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    I don't think Harada's much worse than McCollough. And Hamed's win over McCollough was not impressive at all, I had Hamed ahead at very slim margin.
     
  9. Mendoza

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    In which fight was Hamed clocked and was never noticebaly hurt?
     
  10. Doppleganger

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    It's probably easier for you to tell me in what fights Hamed was noticeably hurt.