Fights in which a slower boxer effectivley beat a faster fighter?

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  1. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    If we're talking the last 30 years, then I think Gerrie Coetzee vs. Michael Dokes is a stand-out. Coetzee was infamously slow and robotic, whereas Dokes had brilliant handspeed and could move well in the early rounds; back at that stage in his career, he also had a lot of power in his punches. Coetzee not only knocked out Dokes, but he outboxed him by using a textbook jab and manipulating the distance very well. It was perhaps South Africa's greatest night of boxing ever.

    Of the examples given, I think the ones where a slower fighter outboxes a faster one are more interesting. Skill beating speed is always a fascinating spectacle to watch.
     
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  2. he grant

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  3. AlFrancis

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    I remember watching this one and it is a great example.
     
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  4. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Teeto here you go the Duran "The Man "himself stating it...at about 5 minute mark

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o17nMADw658

    also he states he could easily of spanked PAC
     
    ricardinho, Sep 5, 2009
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  5. red cobra

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    I saw this fight, and I was most impressed with Coetzee, and thought, wrongly, that he was going to be around as a force for a long time.
     
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  6. balmain

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    Poor Michael would never of remembered the fight. His training was spent in nightclubs. The way he abused himself and was still the WBA heavyweight champion shows what an
    outstanding talent he was. The mandatory defence against Gerrie was thought to be an
    easy one.
     
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  7. teeto

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    Haha, thanks my man, i don't speak Spanish though, but don't worry i believe you anyway, haha.
     
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  8. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    my apologies if it's been said but saddler vs pep
     
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  9. Rock0052

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    Here's a dozen recent examples I haven't seen mentioned yet:

    Kessler-Mundine
    Pavlik-Taylor
    Froch-Taylor
    Froch-Pascal
    Phillips-Tszyu
    Andy Lee-Brian Vera
    Ibeabuchi-Byrd
    Margarito-Cotto
    Glen Johnson-Roy Jones
    Maidana-Ortiz
    Adamek-Cunningham
    Khan-Prescott
     
    Rock0052, Sep 5, 2009
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    No-one for Jim Watt vs Howard Davis Jr? Fastest fighter in boxing at the time.

    Tho Davis choked as much as anything


    :patsch
     
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  11. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks Teeto in the same clip he says when he receives recognition so does Panama and Mexico Because his father is Mexican. He failed to include the American half of Mexican-AMerican. Don't think it was a snub he probably saw his Dad as simply a Mexican.
     
    ricardinho, Sep 6, 2009
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  12. mantacougar1

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    marquez over pacquiao II.
     
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  13. rm36

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    Liston vs. Patterson I, II
     
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  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    maybe griffin's losses to : michalczewski and glen johnson ?
    wlad / byrd ?
    jackson-norris
    maybe most or all of norris' loses.
    when a rangier fighters' hands are quicker than the quicker's feet.

    best answer : look at the losses of fighters you regard as 'quick' , then check their reasons to filter 'uneffectively'
     
    frankenfrank, Sep 7, 2009
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  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Morales-Pacquiao I
     
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