Fights That Could Have Happened That Were All Wrong For One Fighter

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    The one thing with Toney is you could never guarantee which Toney would show up. We did deliver some stinkers in fights he should have won at a canter.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

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    I don't think Pacquiao hits harder than Hamed at Featherweight Pacquiao hits hard but he didn't have that scary power like Hamed who literally turned out your lights with one punch.

    As I said Pacquiao is a better P4P fighter than Hamed, but I still think stylistically because Pacquiao is a very aggressive fighter and was a bit one dimensional back then and got hit alot. I think him getting into a war of exchanging punches with Hamed who hit you at weird angles is dangerous. I could see Pacquiao walking into something like he did vs Marquez and bam remember Pacquiao has been stopped a few times aswell.

    Whilst I'm not saying Hamed is a favourite over Pacquiao I still think at Featherweight vs a more one dimensional version of Pacquiao it's a very winnable fight for Hamed.
     
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  3. NoNeck

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    It's as if you didn't watch Marquez struggle and ultimately lose to an inferior awkward southpaw named Freddy Norwood.
     
  4. NoNeck

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    Foreman didn't want it. That's why he got his ass kicked by Alex Stewart, who Tyson knocked out in one, and only beat one decent fighter in his comeback. He wouldn't even fight Tucker.
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I've heard it said Tyson's team wanted no part of Greg Page. Anyone able to elaborate on that?
     
  6. Boxed Ears

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    I can't agree more about Hatton/Margarito. I see absolutely no upside there if I'm on team Hatton. I was always against the idea of Darchinyan against Taylor at middleweight. Or other weights.
     
  7. Flo_Raiden

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    Roy Jones Jr vs Darisuz Michalcewski. I honestly think RJJ would have been all wrong for DM and he would have outclassed him quite easily IMO.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Page was never ranked in the top 10 when Tyson was champion after he lost to Tubbs he fell off hard losing to journeyman Mark Wills twice. Page was completely washed after his last big win vs Coetzee in 1984.

    There was never a point in which Page could've realistically fought Tyson unless Tyson chose him for a comeback opponent after losing to Douglas.
     
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  9. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Dariusz Michalczewski was all kinds of wrong for RJJ imo, a hard hitter with a good jab was just a really bad combination for Roy
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

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    Michalczewski went life a death with Richard Hall who RJJ treated like a sparring partner. Michalczewski also lost to Julio Cesar Gonzalez who again RJJ treated as a sparring partner.

    RJJ was on a different level to Michalczewski.
     
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  11. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    It all seems to have come from stories as Tyson's sparring partner but interesting that the dates don't seem to match up for a potential match up.

    Thanks.
     
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  12. Dynamicpuncher

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    No worries mate I think the only time they realistically could've fought is after the Douglas fight, it would've been a decent comeback opponent for Tyson and they could've hyped it up as Page dropped Tyson in sparring.

    I think a prime Page in 1983 would've been a decent t test for Tyson I don't see him winning though.
     
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  13. Dorrian_Grey

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    Pacquiao steamrolled Cotto while Mayweather had one of the toughest fights of his careers against him but Floyd beat Manny because styles make fights. Or how about Roy getting outboxed and DQed against Griffin compared to Dariusz stopping him in 4? I think the guy who had the best jab in the division vs the guy who didn't know how to effectively negate a jab would go in favour of the guy scoring points and backing up the other guy using a strong jab. That's just me I guess though. A 35 year old Dariusz in his second last fight and in the twilight of his career isn't a great measuring stick either I don't think (especially since Roy's whole career past 34 is disregarded almost entirely by most) when the fight could have been made way back in 1997 when Dariusz was 29.
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

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    Jones was troubled by Griffin early but saying he was getting outboxed is over stating what actually happened.......

    Jones floored Griffin in the 7th round and was regaining control of the fight in the 2nd half of the fight, and would've stopped Griffin in the 9th round. But in the heat of the moment hit Griffin when he was down which was lucky for Griffin because he definitely would've got stopped legitimately.

    Jones was ahead on 2 of the judges scorecards aswell for your information and massacred Griffin in the rematch in a single round.

    As i said actually go back and watch Michalczewski have two life and death struggles vs Hall or play acting vs Rocchigiani to get a dubious DQ win in a fight he was losing handily and then tell me he's a favourite over RJJ.

    But you're also the same guy that thinks "Toney and Ruiz threw their fights vs Jones" so you're not really the most balanced poster to discuss RJJ to be quite frank.
     
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  15. TimmyMallett

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    Always felt if Luis Ortiz got a title shot at Joshua he would have flattened him. I think Eddie knew that and made sure it never happened luckily for AJ.