Fights that could of and should but never happend

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  1. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jake la motta vs Charlry Burley
    La motta never avoided no one and beat and lost to holman williams and lloyd marshall who were both just as good as burley, was this fight ever close to happening? both at there best i think jake beats burley

    When Both Were welterweight world champion's
    Pipino Cuevas vs Ray Learnard it was spoke about but nothing more, what a great clash of stlyles. I think ray stops cuevas in 8

    Marvin Hagler vs Herol Graham graham was calling out hagler for years, but by that time hagler only wanted super fights. I think graham upsets the 1985 hagler, his hi and move style was all wrong for hagler by then

    Tony Ayala vs Roberto Duran was close to happening but duran lost to kirklind lang and then tony went to jail. I think duran breaks ayala down and stops him late

    Carlos Monzon vs Hugo Pastor Corro a year or so after monzon retired corro went on to beat valdez and become champion, was monzon ever tempted to come back and fight him in what would of been argie's biggest fight of all time? also while monzon was champion corro was a contender why didnt it happen then? I think monzon wins this on points or late stoppage

    What are your thoughts on these fights there out comes and why they never happend?
     
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  2. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bump
     
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  3. Sweet Pea

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    Any version of Hagler should've been enough to knock Graham out, IMO. Graham was more of an ugly, extremely unorthodox spoiler than a pure boxer. Too flawed defensively to handle Hagler's barrage.
     
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  4. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how about the other fights in the thread?
     
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  5. thejokerswild

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    Not real educated on the older stuff so I'll be a newb and say -

    Lennox Lewis v Riddick Bowe

    Riddick Bowe v Mike Tyson

    James Toney v Bernard Hopkins

    Prime Trinidad v Prime RJJ

    Trinidad - Mosley

    Prime Hopkins v Prime RJJ (Bhop was too green for their first fight)

    Liston - Marciano

    Foreman - Tyson

    Foreman - Holmes

    Tyson - Early Holyfield

    Tyson - Foreman

    Hearns - Hagler 2

    KLITSCHKO v KLITSCHKO

    Naseem Hamed v many people

    Mosley - Hatton would be pretty good but unlikely

    Mosley - Judah or Judah - Hatton
    um thats enough, good to think about those.
     
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  6. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    one of the best fights never to happen, listons jab against the rock's right hand
     
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  7. thejokerswild

    thejokerswild Guest

    I believe this also.
     
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  8. Bill1234

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    Was Liston even rated in the top 10 in 1956?
     
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  9. bladerunner

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    Shane Mosley-Stevie Johnston
    Naseem Hamed-Juan Manuel Marquez
    Johny Tapia-Mark Johnson
    Ricardo Lopez-Carbajal/Gonzalez
     
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  10. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lots more, but a good few fights I would of loved to seen and at one point or another could of been made. I will add some more later.

    -Peter Jackson vs John L Sulivan
    -Sam Langford vs Jack Johnson II
    -Jack Dempsey vs Harry Willis
    -Jack Dempsey vs Harry Greb
    -Maxie Rosenbloom vs Max Schmeling
    -Benny Leonard vs Micky Walker
    -Henry Amstrong vs Charley Burley
    -Tony Canzoneri vs Henry Armstrong
    -Marcel Cerdan vs Ray Robinson
    -Archie Moore vs Jake Lamotta
    -Holman Williams vs Tony Zale
    -Jake Lamotta vs Rocky Graziano
    -Ray Robinson vs Dick Tiger
    -Sonny Liston vs Joe Frazier
    -Jose Napoles vs Nicolino Locche
    -Jeff Chandler vs Wilfredo Gomez
    -Carlos Monzon vs Bob Foster
    -Tony Ayala Jr vs Roberto Duran
    -Ray Leonard vs Aaron Pyror
    -Eusebio Pedroza vs Salvador Sanchez
    -Larry Holmes vs George Foreman
    -George Foreman vs Mike Tyson
    -Michael Moorer vs Ray Mearcer
    -Gerald McClellan vs Roy Jones Jr
    -Ike Quartey vs Felix Trinidad
    -Kostya Tszyu vs Pernell Whitaker
    -Terry Norris vs Julio Cesar Vasquez
    -Riddick Bowe vs Lennox Lewis
    -Mark Johnson vs Yuri Arbachakov
    -Naseem Hamed vs Floyd Mayweather
     
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  11. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    read the first thread i wanted your thoughts on the fights i listed, reasons they never happend, how they would of went, i did not want a list of everyt one with there best fights not to happen
     
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  12. McGrain

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    The version of Williams that LaMotta beat was past-prime by distance and LaMotta beat him by a whisker in an MD that was booed by sections of the crowd. That's the popular white swarmer being booed in favour of the old, black slickster...very close fight. Prime for prime Burley wins that one IMO.

    Burley was keen and offers were made but LaMotta was not. The reported quote was:"What do I need Burley for when I have Zivic?"
     
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  13. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    la motta said that?
     
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Accoridng to Harry Otty, yes he did.
     
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  15. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've always seen the fight listed as a unanimous decision.
     
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