Fights that could've happened in reality that you want to see

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ChrisPontius, Nov 3, 2007.


  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    SULLIVAN V JACKSON
    JEFFRIES V JOHNSON
    DEMPSEY V WILLS
    DILLON V GREB
    ROBINSON V BURLEY
    DURAN V ARGUELLO
    PEDROZA V SANCHEZ
    PINTOR VCHANDLER
    LEONARD V PRYOR
    MCGIUGAN V NELSON
     
  2. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    Morrsion vs Tyson anytime in early -mid 90's..
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    ChrisPontius, I think there was a reason why this fight was never made, and it's only my opinion, but I feel that Norton didn't wantany part of Lyle. Ron Lyle was an angry, MEAN dude with devastating power, who would have ko'd Norton in 1 or 2. Really, Norton was intimidated by powerful guys like Foreman, Shavers, Cooney, whoever could crack, in other words. Lyle destroyed Shavers, capping it off with one of the most brutal right hands to the side of Shaver's head that I personally have ever seen, and all of this while Earnie was already on his way down to the canvas. Lyle put Foreman on the deck twice in their epic monster brawl in '76, and those were the cleanest knockdowns ever scored against George. Lyle would have had Ken for breakfast, really destroyed him in my opinion.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    Don't forget Shavers huge knockdown on Lyle tho, might have even been a left hook. Had him real sick, but he showed enormous heart to come back and eventually take Shavers out. Definitely a two way fight.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, that's right, Lyle went down too, but he showed real balls in getting up and manhandling Shavers. I still say that was one serious right hand he hit Shavers with at the end. That was what I call killer instinct. That man Lyle was one bad dude.
     
  6. Bigcat

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    Mike Tyson v Riddick Bowe in 1995 / 6. Brooklyns finest.. Mike may have had horrendous with Bowes style.. In truth it seems like Riddick had a bad end to his career but in honesty Riddick has only ever lost one pro fight , to Evander Holyfield in 1993... 1 loss..

    Lennox lost 2 and Tyson lost 6.. Evander lost a whole bunch but boxed way beyond his years .. Moorer also lost 4... That makes Bowes stock look better than most top clas heavyweight champs in recent years.. Riddick lost 1 fight since his pro debut in 1989. 18 years and 1 loss..
     
  7. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    If Bowe had gotten obliterated by Tyson and not Golota, then it would've certainly elevated his historical standing. Holyfield's in a double way: he had a bigger win in Tyson and a more excuseable loss to Bowe.
     
  8. Bill1234

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    I know that Tate and Larry were thinking of a fight (recently heard in a convo with pops) and that it just didn't fall through. Larry would have jumped at the oppertunity to unify if it meant more millions, and no King involved, thats what happens in Larry's dreams...
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    I think Holmes was going to fight Tate King and all, remember King and Holmes were bossom buddies for many years Bill. Weaver ko'ed Tate, that's what put an end to it, nothing else.
     
  10. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Larry mainly used King to get to the top. He had to play Kings game, and hated it. It appeared up front that they were friends, but behind the scenes Larry resented the man.
     
  11. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Greg Page-Michael Dokes
    Michael Spinks-Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Marvin Hagler-Dwight Davidson
    Tony Ayala-Davey Moore
    Marlon Starling-Milton McCrory
    Aaron Pryor-Saoul Mamby
    Howard Davis jr-Ray Mancini
    Edwin Rosario-Alexis Arguello
    Salvador Sanchez-Eusebio Pedroza
    Jeff Chandler-Wilfredo Gomez
     
  12. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great list with some interesting choices. Page and Cooney had some staged press conference confrontations when they were both undefeated contenders, but I don't remember Page-Dokes ever being discussed as a potential combination.

    To this day, I'm convinced that Davison could have beaten Sibson, if only he'd tried just a bit. (To me, it looked like a walking tank job on Davison's part.) Dwight had the physical strength of Antuofermo, Minter and Hamsho, but not their susceptibility to cuts. Nor was he ever stopped. He would have certainly stood in with Hagler far better than Sibson did.

    Pryor-Mamby is cleverly insightful. Even after Pryor had stopped Arguello in Miami, many analysts were still convinced that Locche would have been too "Untouchable" for The Hawk to prevail against in a fantasy pairing. Sweet Saoul might have been a more suitable opponent for Pryor after his first win over El Flaco Explosivo than Sang Hyun Kim (whose WBC LWW Title Mamby had lifted for himself). Arguello was aiming for a knockout against the wide open Hawk, while Mamby would have been boxing for a decision win all the way. Although I'm confident that Pryor would have outhustled Saoul to take a 15 round decision, a decision win with no knockdowns scored is what the very best version of him would be forced to settle for.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    I have to say i am inclined to agree here. Mamby's well underrated and was quite the tricky boxer. He went the distance with peak Duran, not a bad recommendation.
     
  14. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm also going to add: Wilfredo Gomez-Eusebio Pedroza and John Mugabi-Thomas Hearns.Also, Johnny Verderosa-Ray Mancini.
     
  15. Duodenum

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    Boom-Boom versus:admin. When the pre-fight stare-down ensues, and Ray finds himself looking into the eyes:nut of a:nutcase, Mancini will go:scaredas:. The Heat was too fast and too demented for Boom-Boom. (Mancini's camp would be wise to have it contractually stipulated that John couldn't use AC/DC as his entrance music. Hearing that always whipped Verderosa into a frenzy by the time the bell rang.)

    I suspect Mugabe-Hearns might look something like Mugabe-Cuevas. The Beast might have been a harder hitter than Tommy, but getting close enough to unload his guns would have been another matter.

    Gomez-Pedroza is a fascinating question mark. The assumption would probably be that Eusebio couldn't take it on the chin from Gomez, but Pedroza generated incredible mileage out of his devastating early losses to Perez, Zamora and Arnal. He had the height, speed, reach, conditioning and caution necessary to survive against and outbox Gomez. But when Wilfredo tagged him, all bets would be off. This pairing really could go either way.