Fights that never should have happened

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ThatOne, Aug 30, 2024.


  1. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

    732
    1,582
    Apr 16, 2023
    Even though he'd been finished for years, Jones jr v Lebedev.
    When I heard about it being signed... a shot fighter whose chin had gone fighting a much younger, high level, big puncher in his own back yard... this had disaster written all over it from the start.
     
  2. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

    2,013
    1,864
    May 14, 2024
    Liston vs Ali 1 shouldn’t have happened. Glad it did though.
     
  3. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,078
    8,144
    Jun 10, 2024
    Charles had already beaten Walcott x2 in title fights, + Walcott had lost his previous 2 in a row. there was no real reason for a 3rd title fight.
     
  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,381
    12,737
    Mar 2, 2006
    OK, I'll bite. Why should this have never happened?
     
    swagdelfadeel likes this.
  5. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

    2,013
    1,864
    May 14, 2024
    Liston was injured to the point he could barely spar. They shot down his request for a reschedule because none of the officials liked him. I believe it should’ve happened, just not in that situation.
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,168
    8,647
    Jul 17, 2009
    ?
     
    swagdelfadeel and Smoochie like this.
  7. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

    1,128
    1,419
    Jul 9, 2022
    Belfort vs Holyfield
     
    TBI and bolo specialist like this.
  8. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    25,445
    9,428
    Jul 15, 2008
    Johnson - Fitz

    Jones - Pazienza

    Haugen - Mancini

    Leonard - Camacho

    Canelo - GGG 3
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,408
    26,682
    Jun 26, 2009
    Yeah I knew why you listed this one soon as I saw it, and I’m in total agreement.

    Keep in mind that Joe Walcott’s manager who engineered his revival was a straight-up mob guy … not a shady guy but one known to be thoroughly involved in organized crime.

    In their second meeting, Ezz won over 15 rounds. He knocked Joe down for a nine-count. The scores were 80-70, 83-67 and 84-66. Not even close. No controversy. No reason to believe there should be a rematch.

    Yet four months later, without Walcott having a single fight in between, there he is lined up for yet another title shot. His mob friends were handing them to him like candy canes on Christmas.

    If Charles had knocked him out in 11 seconds in the third fight, rest assured there would have been a fourth to follow after that, and a fifth and a sixth … he was going to keep getting handed shots until he won it. I think Ezz saw the writing on the wall and did a little side business to hand it over.
     
    Smoochie likes this.
  10. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,593
    2,745
    Sep 25, 2020
    I’d add Leonard-Norris.
     
  11. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,167
    7,453
    Apr 29, 2020
    Hi Guys.
    This may not carry with everyone but, I feel Monzon / Napoles should have not got of the ground, you had a slightly past it smallish, cut prone aging WW, up against a colossus of a MW, who would tower above him, and had not tasted defeat for over a decade, I bow to no one in my admiration for Napoles, but this was a bridge too far as it turned out to be, Monzon must have had harder sparring than this fight, on topic, Paret / Fullmer was in a slightly similar vein, a big, immensely strong, bull like fighter in Fullmer, up against a natural born WW, who was noted as a fearless and attacking fighter, too brave for his own good, the closing rounds, do the corner men of Paret, and the ref no good, and makes for uncomfortable viewing, also a good body of thought has it that the beating lingered into the Griffith fight.
     
  12. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

    17,326
    28,250
    Aug 22, 2021
    An ancient, overweight, slow as molasses Foreman vs Michael Moorer.

    Ridiculous.

    Hang on a sec….scratch that one.
     
  13. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    25,445
    9,428
    Jul 15, 2008
    Foreman - Young was terrible matchmaking by team Foreman ... George was on his was on a terrific comeback but then they match him w Young, a fighter they knew was a nightmare from a stylistic standpoint and stage it in a hot climate ? Foreman knew all about Young because he did commentary on one of his Lyle fights for network TV ... he knew exactly what he was getting into .. maybe the governing bodies forced it, I'm not sure but a bad match up for George .... another terrible match up was Norton, coming off the Holmes fight having to match up with Shavers .... again, maybe an alphabet play but a terrible road of most resistance ...
     
  14. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

    41,963
    3,442
    Jun 30, 2005
    I’ve mentioned this a few times before, I think his team saw the writing on the wall and cashed out on him.

    I can’t imagine them seeing his fight with Glenwood Brown and thinking that moving up in weight again to face Terry Norris would be a good idea. Cristano Espana was his mandatory and always going be an awful matchup, so I think they figured they would make a good payday against Norris before facing Espana
     
    Smoochie and bolo specialist like this.
  15. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,691
    2,566
    Oct 18, 2004
    Chandler-Sandoval
    Berbick-Page
    Leonard-Hagler
    Moore-Duran
    Watts-Davis jr.
    Foster-Ahumuda
    L. Spinks-Holmes
    Ali-L. Spinks
    Curry-Honeyghan
    Tyson-Green
    Taylor-McGuigan
    Jones Jr-Ruiz
    Czyz-Hamsho