Fights That You Think Were Overrated ?

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  1. Mteslamiller

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    OP_TheJawBreaker, Leonard-Hearns I certainly was not great in terms of continuous action, but was great in terms of drama and change of momentum.
     
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  2. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    You are tough to please!
     
  3. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    Fantastic post.
     
  4. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    @OP_TheJawBreaker I really want to see a list of your all-time favourite fights - a top 10 at least. I’m going to hazard a guess and say it will look very different to mine.

    I think what this thread shows is that what we consider great in a fight is highly personal. I’ve seen some of my favourite fights of all time mentioned as overrated (Sanchez-Nelson? Really? That’s a first!).

    I think @Saintpat hit the nail on the head with his post - you can argue that the only thing that matters is in the ring action (the operative word being ‘action’) and, of course, that matters but the event, the time, the context and the skill does play a big part too imo.

    Anyway, that’s just my two cents, for what it’s worth.
     
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  5. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was an astounding fight as was Hagler vs. Hearns Duran vs. Leonard one. How can people say these fights were not great. I think people are thinking they were overrated because of who fought. The fact is Leonard vs. Hearns one had shifts in tactics and both were so skilled they exchanged roles. That does not happen much,, and then Tommy came on later and got tired again and Ray took over. It was momentum shifts which rarely happen. Hagler vs. Hearns. If there is another fight where two guys go at it like that in round one again, I have not seen it much. And Duran vs. Leonard. Even though I think Ray could have made the fight easy, it was a great fight. Ray fought Duran and found himself in a war, which taught Ray a lesson which he applied to Hearns and Hagler and all the fights he fought later on.
     
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  6. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    In no particular order, here are some fights I enjoy so much:

    Thomas Hearns vs Marvin Hagler
    Ken Norton vs Larry Holmes
    Eder Jofre vs Jose Medel
    Merqui Sosa vs Prince Charles Williams 1
    Matthew Hilton vs Buster Drayton
    Terry Norris vs Troy Waters
    Alexis Arguello vs Ruben Olivares
    Bennie Briscoe vs Rodrigo Valdez 2
    Ron Lyle vs Earnie Shavers
    Wilfredo Gomez vs Rocky Lockridge
    Juan LaPorte vs Ruben Castillo
     
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  7. Jel

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    And that’s why it’s all subjective.

    A fight like Hagler-Hearns would be on a lot of greatest fight lists and near the top, but it’s been called overrated in this thread by a poster whose opinions I respect.

    Personally, I don’t really get how you think Foreman-Lyle is overrated but you have Lyle-Shavers on your favourite fights list. For me, Foreman-Lyle is a better version of that fight.

    But then I wholeheartedly agree with some of your other picks.
     
  8. Mteslamiller

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    Foreman-Lyle may have been sloppy but it was still a great fight.
     
  9. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't get the rationale some have that a fight is "overrated" if what they consider proper technique isn't shown. Who the hell cares? Anyone whose heart didn't jump the first time they watched Foreman-Lyle doesn't have a pulse. That was pure edge of your seat fun, period.

    For example, I consider Chacon-Limon 4 to be the best fight I've ever seen, and both fighters showed a lot of sloppiness. Chacon threw almost exclusively right hands for any punch that had any meaning, and he threw them with his chin sticking out all the time. Limon fought like...... .well, like Limon, we've all seen his work.