Fights we never saw and were cheated out of

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Pat$$$, May 23, 2011.


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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You sure are overrating Floyd.
    Notice that Mosley , Delahoya and Floyd avoided Tszyu.
    I do think he could have beaten each one of them , and their stirring away from him is why they have a legacy like they do .
    Margachito is much bigger , stronger , harder hitter and has a much better stamina than Chico had . To deduce on a Margo fight based on Chico is a big mistake , for all of the reasons that I mentioned . I think he would have tired Floyd and probably even stopped him late.
    Paul Williams might have lost a close decision , but Floyd would have avoided a rematch , if he wouldn't have , he would have lost the rematch more convincingly than how he might have won the first fight , but having known these , Floyd avoided him and will always do.
    His best chance would have been Cotto , but he even avoided Cotto for reasons known to him .
    He would have probably outpointed Clottey.
     
    frankenfrank, May 30, 2011
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  2. Pat$$$

    Pat$$$ Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not diminishing Tzyu at all. At the time they would have met Mayweather would have been too much for him. Mayweather is too slick and Tzyu was too much of a straight up fighter- right and then the left. Being a Southpaw may have helped him out but he would have not been able to handle the slickness of Mayweather... too slick for a straight up fighter.

    The reason why Judah had so much success against Mayweather and not with Tzyu is because Judah came with hooks and brawled Mayweather... as Judah vs. Tyzu, Judah got hit because he had not perfected his defense at that point of his career.

    The reason why I said a rematch against Williams if they did fight was because I feel Williams would have deserved a rematch. Notice the size issue compared to Margo-et Chico-et Williams. Notice how I rated their size different to that of their skills.

    Margo is NOT a puncher. His gloves may have been tampered with from day 1. When he fought Mosely he got thrashed. All through the fight. Never had a chance and could not fire a shot. He was outclassed... Mayweather at this point and time has way more slickness and class than that of Mosely. Perhaps Mayweather is not as savage as Mosely but he certainly would have done the same to Margo that Mosely did in about the same amount of time... if not an overwhelming UD.

    Floyd can win all of those fights with the exception of a rematch or 1 fight with Williams.

    Floyd has questions to answer for the fans.... questions he can only answer in the ring!
    :hi:
     
    Pat$$$, May 30, 2011
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  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Arguello-Sanchez
    Jones-Hopkins II (2002)
    Morales-Hamed
    Mayweather-Pacquiao :verysad
     
    Bill Butcher, May 30, 2011
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  4. Pat$$$

    Pat$$$ Active Member Full Member

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    The last fight will HOPEFULLY be made. Hamed cheated himself....
    :D
     
    Pat$$$, Jun 1, 2011
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  5. Pat$$$

    Pat$$$ Active Member Full Member

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    .... in addition to this thread: how often have you paid- or wasted time at least- to watch a supposedly "tune-up" fight, only to be let down 3 months later when a real fight is cancelled?

    I remember when Vernon Forrest got the BIG HBO package and subsequently lost to a guy he was supposed to be able to beat handily- Mayorga. The HBO deal was supposed to boost his profile up to a fight with DLH or Trinidad. Never happened! Now we will never know...

    THANK GOD FOR WINKY WRIGHT!! Wright saved fight fans in that division by actually wanting to fight and winning his fights... even though he looked boring to me, after a few matches even I was willing to shell out $50.00 for PPV to see Winky toss it around.
     
    Pat$$$, Jun 1, 2011
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  6. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mustafa Hamsho-Frank Fletcher.
     
    Titan1, Jun 1, 2011
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  7. Pat$$$

    Pat$$$ Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think it has been said yet, but Calzaghe vs. Jones in 1999 is probably a good showing. In addition, we probably could have seen Forrest vs. DLH and Trinidad as well... too bad Forrest dies tragically. RIP!
     
    Pat$$$, Aug 22, 2011
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  8. Moe Greene

    Moe Greene Guest

    Muangsurin Vs Cervantes: 1977
     
    Moe Greene, Aug 22, 2011
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  9. Moe Greene

    Moe Greene Guest

    I recommend suicide for mongs like you.
     
    Moe Greene, Aug 22, 2011
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  10. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hagler v Leonard 1982

    Frazier v Ali 2 in 1972 for the title (suppose we can't complain too much about this one,as they fought twice more anyway !)

    Holyfield v Tyson 1991
     
    Stevie G, Aug 23, 2011
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  11. Pat$$$

    Pat$$$ Active Member Full Member

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    ... I think Moe Greene got a bullet to the head, didn't he?
    :smoke
     
    Pat$$$, Aug 23, 2011
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  12. Moe Greene

    Moe Greene Guest

    Yep, he didn't stupidly rate a fighter like Floyd though:good
     
    Moe Greene, Aug 23, 2011
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  13. Pat$$$

    Pat$$$ Active Member Full Member

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    btw: we were cheated out of a Floyd Mayweather vs. Victor Ortiz fight as well!!
     
    Pat$$$, Dec 3, 2011
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  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Probably good for Norton that it didn't happen.
     
    red cobra, Dec 3, 2011
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  15. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most intriguing match that never occured was Ray Robinson against Charley Burley.WOW
    Burley was willing, but not Ray Robinson. Too bad !
     
    burt bienstock, Dec 3, 2011
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