Fights were the Loser lost it /give it away

Tyson vs Holyfield - Round 5, Tyson seemed to have Holyfield where he wanted, but for some reason stayed off the gas (probably because he was already exhausted)

 

Kirkland Laing/Colin Jones I

Kirkland Laing/Colin Jones II

Kirkland Laing/Buck Smith

Kirkl...

 

KESSLER v JC

he seemed completely stunned by the Calzaghe support and droning buzz from the packed house home fans - he just seemed in awe...

Taking absolutely nothing from Joe,
I think Kessler was taken a back, was thunderstruck and gave away a fight I felt he could have won.

 

Full credit to those who WIN the fights

 

Don Curry-Marlon Starling I was one of the most frustrating bouts I ever watched. All fight long, Moochie repeatedly obtained a superb position on the insider, then for some reason refused to let his hands go. Maybe if he had, Donald would have outfought him anyway, being a highly competent infighter himself. But walking tank jobs like this match, Tyson-Smith (who I always have the temptation to call "Bonehead" despite his BA degree from Shaw College), and other events where the loser does nothing when an honest effort could clearly produce a win drives me nuts. (And Smith had the power to hurt Tyson, and the conditioning and stamina to sustain the kind of attack Douglas later used successfully.)

 

This is so important.

If not for this, there is no point to boxing besides money, and we have nothing to say about guys like Floyd Mayweather.

Its cool to speculate that they could have won, but full credit needs to be given to the guy who actually gets in the ring and does his job. We work hard for weeks in the gym, and its damn frustrating to pull off the upset and have it discounted by everybody you were seeking respect from.

 

Exactly, I've said this for years on here. This ALWAYS comes up though.

Imagine how you would feel if you trained your ass off for weeks, months, workign so hard, killing yourself, and after you win your fight all that everyone is talking about is that your opponent lost it and it wasn't you that won it. You'd be furious.

 

most honest and intelligent people don't take a win away from an honest and brave victory, full marks indeed.

BUT the same is true for the occasional loss, sometime fighters are beaten by lesser men for various reasons, and again this is obvious to intelligent honest people...

- veteran fighters at the end of their careers
- stepping UP out of their weight divisions
- the other end - drying out, especially in the past with as little as a week or two to make weight

- long layoffs, which shouldn't matter too much if retraining was long enough and quality sparring partners were used.

- injuries, not quite healed, very common in the past, likewise sickness, coming off a brutal flu for example, but fights had to be carried out.

these are some of the honest factors than can and do contribute to a hindered performance...

 

de la hoya vs mayweather, dlh quit throwing his jab which was effective.

 

yeah it had nothing to do with Mayweather ad******g, leading with the right and countering the jab with the right in the second half of the fight. Oscar just decided to stop doing what was working for him, because he wanted to let Mayweather win.

Terrible post.

 

possibly Tate-Weaver.

 

As the resident Patterson nut-hugger :yep I believe he could have went an easy
3-0 in his Quarry-Quarry-Ellis trifecta...despite all his talent he regularly took his foot off the pedal countless times.

 

Herol Graham going hell for leather trying to knock Julian Jackson out is a reasonable but still arguable example of this.Poor ring generalship and entirely avoidable with the fight about to be stopped in his favour anyway because of jacskons eye.

Mostly i agree with Teeto and Magna though.Stuff like Leonard Duran and DLH quartey don't really count..I particularly hate the mentality some have of a rematch counting more than a first fight.Being able to adjust , improvise and impose yourself at the first time of meeting someone is an important skill to have.after all not every fighter gets the benefit of a second chance, often it's just the guys with the connections and greater popularity.