Fights Where A Fighter Walks Down And Stops Signifcantly Harder Puncher

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  1. NoNeck

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    Andre Ward against Kovalev.
     
  2. NoNeck

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    I don’t think so. Quartey ate Vargas’ power and almost got stopped by Oscar.
     
  3. IsaL

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    Styles make fights.

    DLH imo had a closer fight with Quartey than Vargas did, but DLH has the incredible lefthook that will hurt anyone if it lands clean.

    Vargas is just a bigger, stronger puncher that will have you shelling up or boxing on the outside the was Quartey was fighting Vargas, and still lost decisively because Vargas brute strength was just overwhelming.
     
  4. NoNeck

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    I don’t think you even watched the Quartey fight. Quartey was stronger, never got rocked, and hurt Vargas. He lost due to Vargas’ shoe shining while he only threw basic combos and single punches.
     
  5. IsaL

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    I've seen it. Quartey if Quartey wasn't getting pushed back by Vargas' combinations, he was boxing on the semi-succesfully from the outside from what I recall, but Vargas was just putting that pressure and making the fight. Vargas won because he had more moments than Quartey.

    Going back to the point though, Vargas is naturally bigger and stronger than DLH, but DLH is better in every other category.
     
  6. Dubblechin

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    We have a winner. ;)
     
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  7. kirk

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    Nice knowledge. I didnt know that.... thats crazy that Martinez went from that to what he became. Id think that has to be one of the biggest improvements in power and improvements in becoming a ko artist, from not being one, in recent times.
     
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    Majority of Vargas's work was not shoe shining at all imo. He sat down on most of all his punches, and most of his combinations had clear purpose and intent behind them beyond just trying to 'be busy'.

    Ike lost because Vargas was the better boxer, simple as.

    Ike did do well though and had plenty of moments where he did look as strong as Vargas and at least as big.
     
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  9. ElCyclon

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    Sanchez Vs Gomez was the first that came to mind.
     
  10. NoNeck

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    So do you think Vargas hit harder than Oscar? I dont.
     
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    I think Oscars highest power is probably slightly more than Vargas's highest power, so if were to compare the hardest punches landed in an average fight I would lean towards them being landed by Oscar. I think his left hook is likely more KO inducing than anything Vargas throws.

    But I could see a case for Vargas maybe having a bit heavier/harder average punch when you factor in body shots and crosses.

    But no I wouldnt classify Vargas as a bigger puncher than Oscar, because I think his strength and the general heavyness of hands gets confused for raw power.
     
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  12. Reg

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    He wasn't stopped but I was impressed when Julian Williams walked down Jarret Hurd.
     
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  13. Badbot

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    His power increased significantly once he fully moved up to 154, which happened in his late 20s, meaning physical prime.
    And then at middleweight his team made a conscious decision that he had to start sitting down even more on his punches.

    He really is a poster boy for "with proper technique, anyone can punch hard."
     
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  14. MorvidusStyle

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    Ruiz v AJ was an incredible power difference, and size difference, and range difference, and PED difference.
    That's the biggest upset based on physical stats I've ever seen. It's hard to believe it happened even to this day.
    Ruiz didn't charge forward but he was pressing ahead because he had to being a LHW and having no reach compared to a 6'5 SHW.
    Ruiz is really underpowered at HW. Even at the end AJ wasn't that hurt.
     
  15. MaccaveliMacc

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    Brewster didn't walk Wlad down. It was a target practice for Klitschko until he gassed out.