Fights where a fighter was unable to avenge a controversial loss/draw in the rematch

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Flo_Raiden, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. wutang

    wutang Active Member Full Member

    1,128
    442
    Mar 10, 2012
    Nate Campbell vs Robbie Peden is another one....I guess getting ko'd while putting your arms by your side and tempting your opponent to hit you isn't all that controversial though.
     
  2. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,431
    6,534
    Oct 12, 2010
    Another fight worth mentioning is Joseph Agbeko vs Abner Mares. The first fight was one of the most despicable display of constant nut shots and corrupt refereeing in recent history. A proper ref would have docked points and eventually DQ'd Mares.
    In the rematch Agbeko fell short again, this time with less controversy.
     
    NoNeck likes this.
  3. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,431
    6,534
    Oct 12, 2010
    I'll say this: I honestly think had Kovalev been given the win over Ward his career would be so much more different. A win over Ward would have been considered a great win and wouldn't need to have a rematch. His confidence, focus, training, and aura of invincibility would have lasted him a bit longer and he would have been the top dog of the division for a few more years. That's why I think the second fight was such a huge letdown for Kovalev and it completely derailed his career.

    Huge shame and injustice that resulted in Kovalev never becoming the same fighter and letting himself down. But that's boxing for you.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2020
    ForemanJab likes this.
  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,993
    5,854
    Mar 2, 2006
    Alfonso Lopez defends against Guty Espadas and is way ahead but is stopped in the 13th round. In the rematch he is again ahead on points and again is stopped in the 13th round.

    The first Jose Napoles - Armando Muniz fight, Muniz is robbed blind of the title after leaving Napoles a bleeding hulk in the 12th round. The corrupt Ref and Commission confer for minutes to make up something to protect Napoles and came up with, "Since he was butted in rounds 3 and 5 Napoles wins a technical decision." In the rematch, Napoles wins a correct 15 round decision.

    Juan Coggi - Eder Gonzalez - anyone who has not seen their first fight needs to watch this on youtube to educate yourself on the definition of sheer corruption. Coggi stopped him again in the rematch.
     
    Momus likes this.
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

    13,901
    10,954
    Jun 9, 2007
    No
     
  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

    13,901
    10,954
    Jun 9, 2007
    This is a very good point but I also feel his chin resistance just dropped off immensely
     
  7. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,848
    2,782
    Aug 2, 2013
    Fraid so
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,583
    13,005
    Dec 20, 2006
    Pedroza vs Lockridge
    Lopez vs Galindez
    Briscoe vs Monzon
    DLH vs Mosley
     
    George Crowcroft and scartissue like this.
  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,993
    5,854
    Mar 2, 2006
    Arnold Taylor v Romeo Anaya - Anaya is way ahead, having dropped Taylor 4 times and was battering him when Taylor throws a Hail Mary right hand that takes out Anaya in the 14th round. In the rematch Anaya again is stopped in 8 rounds.
     
  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

    13,901
    10,954
    Jun 9, 2007
    Nah
     
  11. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,848
    2,782
    Aug 2, 2013
    There was a clear knockdown of Collins from Eubank in R2 not counted by the ref, Collins won the round on all three cards! The scored knockdown of Eubank in R8 was less clear than that, simply a push to the sternum/balance issue - Eubank wins the round if you exclude that knockdown if you watch... That's six points. Look at the scores.

    Then the ref doesn't start counting Collins for over 5 seconds when Eubank drops him heavily (another legit kd).

    Eubank was the clear betting favourite for the rematch.
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Devotee of the Little Red Book Full Member

    45,300
    18,020
    Feb 11, 2005
    Marciano - LaStarza
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

    15,465
    7,859
    Apr 3, 2012
    I imagine they had a rematch clause and Kov would’ve been beaten in the rematch.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

    23,262
    34,867
    Mar 3, 2019
    How was that controversial? Marciano won a close fight that the era's scoring system deemed Marciano the winner.

    It's revisionism to say it's controversial, as it would be a draw today.
     
  15. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,334
    789
    Jul 22, 2004
    Patterson vs. Quarry! Their first fight: Quarry won the 1st and KD Floyd in the second (2X) giving him a (by those California rules) a 4-0 lead going into the 3rd round.
    Patterson whomped his arse from there on out letting Jerry salvage a draw with Floyd's "cigar store indian passivity" in the last 2 rounds.
    The rematch in the elimination tourney: Jerry (again) was up due to flash KD's in the 2nd and 4th rounds; after that Jerry appeared gassed and Floyd took over the rest of the way.
    First fight: Majority Draw Quarry
    Second fight: Majority Decision Quarry
    Patterson should have won both fights had his head been screwed on straight! My $0.02