Fights where an older fighter dominates a young fighter?

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  1. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm out of shape :oops:. Working on getting it back, but meanwhile sparring is kind of ugly. I can out-skill/overpower my partners, but only for short stretches, and then I need a major breather. I'm using less of a pressure style, no bouncing, just stalking and counterpunching.

    So to get me through this stage, I'm looking for fights where a guy doesn't waste anything and uses his skills and ring intelligence to keep a more active fighter at bay. Hopkins-Pavlik comes to mind, and Hopkins is actually the guy I'm most trying to emulate now, but there's got to be some others. Throw them in this thread and we can all learn something.

    Or just throw me some ideas that work for this sort of situation.
     
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  2. scotchpieirnbru

    scotchpieirnbru Active Member Full Member

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    Not a fighter you should try to emulate but Michael Gomez springs to mind when he defeated Alex Arthur...
     
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  3. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    The obvious guy is Archie Moore. His style, in his later years, sounds a lot like what you are describing.
    If they think you are afraid of them it is easier to walk them into punches. And uncertain guys are almost as easy to walk into punches as brave guys.
     
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  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Duran - Moore
     
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  5. futurechamp10

    futurechamp10 Active Member Full Member

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    Lol shooting for Hopkins style isn't a bad place to start.
     
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  6. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marquez-Diaz
     
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  7. Speechless

    Speechless Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Watch James Toney later in his cruiserweight/heavyweight years. He is a master of minimal defensive movement (opposite of bouncing around). He's like a matador, the punches just slip by and he's still in the pocket, in good position to counter. He was notorious for having a poor (or non-existant) training regimen, yet he was so strong and so effective even in the later rounds.
    The steroids probably helped him though - maybe not a perfect example. But he is an excellent example of being evasive and slick with minimal movement.
     
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  8. billy boy balbo

    billy boy balbo New Member Full Member

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    harrison vs mizsej jr
     
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  9. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Couldn't find it, but he does look old :lol:

    Good shout, both those fights are close to what I'm looking for

    Great fight. Gomez was WAY too active compared to me though

    Never seen an Archie Moore fight. Doing it today.

    Love this one.

    Hopkins-Pascal I is a good one, and Hopkins Pascal II is a masterpiece.
     
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  10. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duuude...Joe Louis. :patsch

    Seriously, guy uses like no energy. Follow them, when they get too close, savagely rip into them and then go back to stalking. This could work....
     
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  11. Kill a B

    Kill a B Member Full Member

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    Anything from the recent years with Hopkins :) Man's a wizard, whether or not you like his dirty fighting antics.
     
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  12. 123ko

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    be the mummy ,,George Foreman
     
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  13. grumpy

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    Hopkins-Trinidad well most of his fights from the past decade or so.
    Some older Sugar Ray Robinson fights to.
     
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  14. PivotPunch

    PivotPunch Guest

    Hopkins - Pavlik or Hopkins against pretty much anyone
     
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  15. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    James Toney vs Thomaz Adamek
     
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