Fights where credit was taken from the winner for being too dominant

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  1. Glass City Cobra

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    Holmes vs Cooney.

    Crawford vs Indongo

    Wilder vs Ortiz
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Wilder and Holmes were far from dominant.
     
  3. NoNeck

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    Spinks--Cooney. Spinks was the underdog.
     
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  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Does Hopkins-Trinidad fit that description? It pretty much made his rep as a great fighter at that point.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It's almost 20 years later and it's generally forgotten that Tito was favored and Hopkins was regarded as being a little better than Joppy.

    Back then, Tito's camp claimed that Joppy was better than Hopkins before the Joppy fight, and nobody laughed at them. Max Kellerman thought David Reid might be able to beat Hopkins, and nobody laughed at him.
     
  6. NoNeck

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    I think this is more of a case like Holmes--Ali, Norris--Mullings, Camacho--Leonard or Johnson--Jones where the loser actually had much less left going into the fight than expected.

    I'm listing examples where loser still had something left, even if past peak.
     
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  7. NoNeck

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    Norris--Leonard. Leonard was favored.
     
  8. Mike Cannon

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    could be persuaded otherwise, maybe :duh
     
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  9. sweetsci

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    Ken Norton TKO 1 Duane Bobick. While Norton was favored 11-5, it was thought to be a competitive bout between two of the top five contenders. The Ring had Norton at #3 and Bobick at #5. Afterwards Bobick was seen an overrated joke who'd built his record on stiffs.

    Earnie Shavers KO 1 Ken Norton. Going in, Shavers was supposed to be a tune-up for Norton. Ring had Norton at #2, while Shavers was unranked. Shavers had lost badly to Holmes and had only beat three oft-beaten "opponents" since. People were chomping at the bit for a pretty much done-deal Holmes-Norton rematch later in the year. Afterward, Norton was seen as a past his prime fighter who couldn't hang with big bangers.

    Larry Holmes TKO 3 Leon Spinks. While Holmes was favored 4-1, some writers were predicting a Spinks victory based on his recent performance against Bernardo Mercado. The Ring had Spinks as Holmes' #3 contender, behind Mike Weaver and Gerry Cooney. Afterward, Spinks was a hard-luck kid who didn't have much skill and was lucking in catching Muhammad Ali at the right time three and a half years before.
     
  10. he grant

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    I disagree.
     
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  11. he grant

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    Excellent calls.
     
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  12. mr. magoo

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    Don’t know if it’s already been mentioned but I think Lennox Lewis’win over Razor Ruddock may be one possible example. Going into that match a lot of people picked Ruddock to cripple Lewis and when the opposite happened, Ruddock was all of a sudden “ ruined from the Tyson fights. “
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    Great mention Goo.
     
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  14. Richard M Murrieta

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    Bob Foster vs Mike Quarry, June 27 1972, Las Vegas, Nevada.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    That's my take on your thread but it is a bit of a fine line .. In Saad - Conteh 1, Saad was a solid favorite and Conteh coming in was viewed as a past his prime one armed fighter .. Conteh suprised everyone by fighting the fight of his life against a prime Saad .. in my opinion Saad came on super strong in the championship rounds, dominated the end of the fight , dropped Conteh four times, had him hanging on for his life to go the distance and ruined him as a fighter as the rematch showed .. it was viewed as a great fight, a classic after it was over but almost all of it was focused on Conteh's surprise performance .. he clearly had a lot left and showed it in the proper opportunity .. he also got wrecked as it ended ..
     
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