Fights where prefight reputation made a difference in the outcome

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  1. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DLH vs Trinidad. Oscar had a reputation of having decisions go his way that shoudn't have. prior to the fight the trinidads met with the judges behind closed doors with no one from Oscar's camp present. Don King was also seen talking to the judges while the fight was in progress. Both parties said that the discussions were to make sure Tito got a fair shake and we ended up with judges that were terrified to score a round for Oscar.
     
  2. truushot

    truushot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most of Tyson's fights in the year prior to him becoming the HW champion you can see the fear in many of his foes.
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    sounds like a weak excuse to me

    there's a possibility that the judges in that fight were corrupt, but that they were scared to score rounds for oscar because of his past reputation just sounds like a conspiracy theory that doesn't hold.

    you know, Arum said in an interview once that one of the judges scored the 12th round for Oscar, becuase Tito had too big a lead on his card and he wanted to give in a closer score. I would like to get my hands on those official scorecards.
     
  4. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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  5. raiderjay

    raiderjay Active Member Full Member

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    All three Ali-Norton fights. Mayweather/Castillo 1. In fact, the list is so long a person could pick out at least 10 fights a year if you looked at the smaller venue fights that have a well known prospect fighting a journeyman type.
     
  6. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well my theory about the judges being scared to score for Oscar is obviously an opinion but the other 2 things that I said are undeniable facts. By the Trinidad's own admission they had a meeting with the judged behind closed doors to plead their case for the judges to not be biased in Oscar's favor, TV cameras caught king talking to the judges while the fight was in progress and he says he was doing the same thing.

    You really don't think that combined with the public opinionf on the whitikar and quartey fights played a roll in the judging that night?
     
  7. El Radar

    El Radar Member Full Member

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    A very obvious one is focusing on Oscar De La Hoya weight advantage over Manny Pacqiuao, and not looking at the fact that a 37 year old Oscar haden't fought at that weight at 147.
     
  8. headhunter

    headhunter Well-Known Member Full Member

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  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    PAC-JMM

    Pac had become HBO's new baby.
     
  10. cmkb

    cmkb Member Full Member

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    This may qualify as a conspiracy theory of sorts, however....

    I've always felt that Judah's blatant low blow against Mayweather and subsequent suspension for the fight affected the Cotto fight.

    Again.. may be a little :silly but it seemed to me Cotto had predetermined that he could use a low blow to get out of a tough spot because he knew Judah couldn't retaliate with any dirty tactics and would have to be on his best behavior as he was skating on thin ice with the commission. At this point nobody (judges, refs, commission) would have any sympathy for Judah, especially if he acted out again.

    Probably not a popular opinion but I'm just saying...
     
  11. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very interesting, I had never seen it from that point of view before.