Fights where the "brawler" outboxed the supposedly superior boxer

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  1. IntentionalButt

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  2. elchivito

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    Duran wasn't just brawling with Leonard he was outboxing him at times. Maidana wouldn't have had the success he had vs Broner or Mayweather if not for his newfound jab. Froch outboxing Kessler in the rematch was quite a surprise. Kov outboxing master boxer Hopkins was pretty unexpected too.
     
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  4. Flurry

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    I see where you're aiming at, yes there's some truth to that, at least with regards to the fights that you mentioned, cos in those cases he went for broke when the matches were up for grasp and he had been hurt or when he was down on the cards at the time. Hall early on is a good example. Maybe in that instance he did fight like a brawler, trying to bully the bully in order to turn the tide in that fight. Usually that wasnt his style. Sdunek wouldnt have like to see that, he wanted darius to stay calm and be in control of the fight.

    The reason Imo he wasnt a brawler in the true sense of the term:

    He didn't throw wild sweeping shots or combos as you d expect a brawler to do, but rather he relied on accuracy and he was carefullly picking his shots, most of the time one shot at a time, rarely one- twos as well. He was patient usually, bit by bit wearing the opponent down instead of trying to overwhelm him.
     
  5. Flurry

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    You re referring to the Hall fight again, when a) some of his skills were on the verge of eroding plus b) when he was in a situation that he got hurt or the fight was swinging away from him and he felt he had to do something extraordinary to gain the momentum.


    His normal style wasn't like that, see most of his matches from 1997 to 2000.

    Not being as elusive as Jones or Ottke doesn't automatically make you a brawler, there is something in between. Again, a brawler doesn't pick his punches or rely on accuracy the way DM did, a brawler goes inside at all costs, no matter the risk. Id say David Tua was a brawler probably.
     
  6. raff

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  7. Flurry

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    Peter, I d agree

    Tua, most of the fights i ve seen of his he liked throwing barrages of punches, knowing many of them wouldn't connect clean, but hoping some would.

    DM by all accounts was a jabber first and foremost, there were times in his fights in the late 1990s where 80% of the punches he threw were jabs. You d wait for a right hand thrown for several rounds. In addition he seldomly threw masses of jabs in a row, he picked even these carefully. Cos they were powerjabs not range finders. How many brawlers work predominantly with carefully picked jabs.
     
  8. Flurry

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    I think I can more or less agree with this assessment.
     
  9. hooligan

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  10. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good same thing I thought


    Also, I think Rocky Gannon outboxed a highly respected boxer can't remember who it was.