Fights where the cornermen did a bad job...

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  1. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    I'll start with two:

    Hagler's corner in his fight with Leonard.

    Meldrick Taylor's corner when he fought Chavez.
     
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  2. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ''Brilliant AJ !!''

    ''Lions in the camp !!!''
     
  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    #1 Davey Moore's corner sending him out for the 8th round against Duran. My ex-wife wouldn't have sent me out for that beating, well maybe,,
     
  4. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    Note to self: never have your ex wife corner you in a boxing match - unless a win means more for her in terms of divorce payments, in which case she’ll do her utmost to ensure that you are victorious.

    I believe that type of winning relationship is called a “coincidence” of wants. :D
     
  5. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    Foreman’s corner in Zaire.
     
  6. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Quarry’s corner in the Frazier rematch.

    Louis was acutely errant in not stopping the fight sooner - but Jerry’s corner was equally, if not more, responsible for his welfare.

    Actually, was it Jerry’s corner who ultimately waved him out - with Louis complying and stopping the fight? Even if so, it was unduly delayed.

    Obviously also, Norton’s corner telling him to play it safe in the 15th round of his rubber match vs Ali. Right up there with the worst advice ever.
     
  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson’s corner vs. Douglas. Not having basic equipment in a heavyweight championship fight? Unforgivable.

    But Mike made his choices, including those to not have people who would try to push him or make him listen as his trainers rather than competent professionals.
     
  8. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ben Davison telling Fury half way thru the fight that Fury can win the fight only with his left vs Wilder in their first fight. Fury was letting his right go and scoring on Wilder pretty good up to that point .. After that shitty advice and Fury's activity completely falling off the cliff in the 11th and 12th , well that fight was Furys to take , and he passed on it .... Davison blew it
     
  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Koichi Wajima v Oscar Albarado I - At the start of the 15th round, Wajima had two eyes swollen shut and bleeding from the ear and nose. He shouldn't have been allowed out for the last round. Yet, it took 3 severe knockdowns before the referee finally called it off, not the corner. Very brave cornermen.

    Danny Lopez v Shig Fukuyama - Danny picked up a cut and between rounds 8 and 9, Lopez' manager Howie Steindler quite literally spilled a bottle of solution used to treat cuts into his eye and Lopez could not continue. An unfortunate ending to a great fight. But a bad mistake for something that Howie must have done a thousand times in the past.

    Rafael Ruelas v Mauro Gutierrez I - This bout appeared to be routine, but in the 2nd, Ruelas was caught by a sweet combo and went down. He was OK but was instructed by Joe Goosen to take the count. But instead of looking/listening to the ref, Goosen decides to apply his own count and Ruelas is listening to him. The problem with this was that Goosen is one second behind the referee's count. While the ref is saying 6, Joe is saying 5. At 10 Goosen hadn't caught up and was telling Ruelas 9 and was counted out while Joe was motioning to Rafael to get up. Next time, Joe, tell your charge to listen to the ref.
     
  10. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chris Algieri's corner: "We're gonna let him out of the cage and he's gonna knock him out (Pacquiao)."

    Pac proceeds to knock him down before the round ends.

    Chris Algieri's corner: "Good job, we're winning this fight."
     
  11. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Every corner, that sends out their fighter that has taken sustained punishment for over 2 thirds of the fight, is bruised and blooded, and has almost no chance of winning, in particular if said fighter has no punch to speak of, the sport doesn't want brave cornermen, and brave fighters need to be saved from themselves , period.
    stay safe guys.
     
  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Ali's corner in the Holmes fight is a big one for me.
    Franklin's corner in the Braxton rematch.
    Benitez corner vs Hamsho
     
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  13. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Beat me to it. This was amazing.

    Any Teddy Atlas speech sucked major ass to me, with the FIREMEN and the Michael Moorer phone call standing out. The call w Moorer was pathetic and he did it more for himself to tell people how he motivates fighters than for Moorer who found it weird. The fact that Atlas still tells the story like it's a masterclass in psychology is a masterstroke of narcissistic irony.

    Shitbag Panama Lewis, interesting how he was still working with fighters including guys like Zab Judah well after people knew that all he was good for was clandestine cheating knowledge (wait, that's important stuff? sure is)
     
  14. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wasn't Evander Holyfield in the middle of divorcing Paulette while training for the George Foreman fight, with its hefty $20m purse?

    After a few weeks in training camp, poor Evander was vulnerable - he may have outweighed George at this stage - and relations resumed and Paulette's subsequent divorce now saw her entitled to her portion of a fortune plus $20m.

    I think that's a true story.
     
  15. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great post. Your posts are the best btw.
     
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