Fights where the official verdict is generally disregarded

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  1. teeto

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    What about Louis-Walcott 1? I've never scored it personally.
     
  2. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis v Holyfield was pathetic. You could see in Holy's eyes he knew he'd lost, and the smirk on Don King's face after the fight.
     
  3. Pachilles

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    And pretty much any fight held in Italy. Used to catch these fights on Eurosport and they were always blatant fixes. I forget the fight, i think it was a cruiserweight or light heavy fight. And the British guy stopped the italian around the 8 - 10th round, but they turned the decision, claimed it should've been stopped due to an injury or some **** and declared it a points win from up until the stoppage, and gave it to the italian.

    Im sorry but **** you Italians. Slimey greasy queers. Everything you touch is corrupt.
     
  4. teeto

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    That last sentence is poor.
     
  5. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree with Maxim-Patterson. I have seen that fight several times and I think the decision was fair.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    Contemporary opinion seemed to have been typically weighted in Floyd's favor, though, wasn't it? The thread does specify official verdicts that are "generally disregarded"...whether the majority view is accurate is not as important a factor in this context...
     
  7. teeto

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    Oh okay, well 'generally', the first 2 Barrera-Morales fights should be reversed, and i agree.
     
  8. Pachilles

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    I feel they both recieved something far greater than a W in their fights
     
  9. Pachilles

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    Well the italian mafia controlled boxing for several years. Today if you go to Italy to fight you cannot win, the italians stay at home. There was that cyclist on steroids at the last olympics. Theres the football scandal where several major world class teams had been caught out fixing matches.

    So i stand by my statement. And i doubt-a theyre insulted, because they make-a lots-a money!
     
  10. OLD FOGEY

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    Apparently, the print reporters voted for Patterson. The judges unanimously for Maxim. Tommy Loughran did color on the fight and neither he nor the announcer questioned the decision.

    John Garfield of this board saw the fight live and he once posted that he thought Maxim won.

    I just gave my opinion on watching the tape. It also seems to me that the career momentum was certainly with Patterson, who was the hottest young prospect in the game. Who wanted to see old Joey win? That just let the air out of the Patterson balloon, sort of like a young Tyson blowing a decision in 1985. Maxim was no longer and would never again be a big draw, unlike Patterson.

    I remember reading a 1961 biog of Floyd, and the author did not claim this was a poor decision. As a matter of fact, having lived through the whole era, I don't remember all that much controversy about this fight.


    The OP's criteria were "decisions that were so bad that the official verdict has to be overruled"

    I don't think the Maxim-Patterson fight meets that criteria.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

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    Then I defer to your experience. :good
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    You know you're brain is substandard an not upto the task, acceptance is a good thing :yep
     
  13. Lobotomy

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    Leon-Spinks-Jesse Burnett. Leon got a surprisingly lopsided UD in a match the aging Burnett clearly won, but justice prevailed as Jesse immediately got his shot at ST Gordon's WBC CW Title.

    Hearns-SRL II. Ray has always been candid in his assessment that Tommy was the rightful winner of their rematch. Somewhat tempered by the suspicion that Hearns may again have succumbed before the final bell had this one also been scheduled for 15 rounds.

    Johnny Boudreaux-Scott LeDoux. Televised and on youtube for all to see. Boudreaux's career essentially ended with this fixed robbery, and he descended into obscurity, while LeDoux went on to star in live network telecasts against Leon Spinks, Ron Lyle, Ken Norton, Mike Weaver, Marty Monroe and Larry Holmes. After retirement, Scott maintained his celebrity status as an AWA referee and ESPN boxing analyst. Few non champions in heavyweight history got as much career mileage out of their boxing notoriety as LeDoux did, and much of that might be traced to the Boudreaux fiasco.

    Despite the fact Robinson was stopped, he was so far ahead of Maxim when he succumbed to hyperthermia that he actually added to his P4P stature in the process. Hardly anybody believes that Joey could have prevailed in a climate controlled environment.
     
  14. daz52

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    Whitikar Chavez
     
  15. Jaws

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    I've always thought DLH-Mosely II was pretty bad. Worse than DLH-Trinidad, anyway.