Fights where the official verdict is generally disregarded

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tyrone Everett-Alfredo Escalera's verdict has been disregarded almost from the moment it was announced.
     
  2. Lobotomy

    Lobotomy Guest

    Here's my scorecard:
    R1) Everett 10-9 Escalera
    R2) Everett 10-9 Escalera
    R3) Everett 10-9 Escalera
    R4) Everett 10-9 Escalera
    R5) Everett 9-10 Escalera
    R6) Everett 9-10 Escalera
    R7) Everett 10-9 Escalera
    R8) Everett 10-9 Escalera
    R9) Everett 10-9 Escalera
    R10) Everett 10-10 Escalera
    R11) Everett 10-10 Escalera
    R12) Everett 10-9 Escalera
    R13) Everett 9-10 Escalera
    R14) Everett 9-10 Escalera
    R15) Everett 9-10 Escalera

    Everett 145-142 Escalera

    Who else here has sat down and scored this fight? I'd be interested to see how others broke it down, round by round.

    Although I agree it was clearly a robbery, I don't think it was as egregious as say, Whitaker-Chavez, which immediately became the subject of a David Letterman top ten monologue.
     
  3. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyrone Everett vs. Alfredo Escalera: 146-140 Everett
    Escalera: 5,10,12 and 15.
    Everett: 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,11,13 and 14.
    Round 9 even.


    And I was TRYING to find rounds for Escalera. I think you could go even wider than that.
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is clearly the most egregious example.

    Holy might have won two rounds.
     
  5. Lobotomy

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    Thanks for sharing that. I too was trying to find rounds for the Snake Man, and shudder to think of how much wider the margin could have been if I'd deliberately been favoring Everett.

    One thing I often do is grant some deference to the ringside commentators viewing it live, as they often see things obscured on the screen. (Cosell is largely responsible for this, as he emphasized these differences, but other broadcasters have done the same thing as long as fights have been telecast.) Eddie Cotton looked like he deserved the verdict over Jose Torres going by the footage alone, but the commentators provided a different perspective. (Carlos Ortiz in particular pointed out the differences in seeing it live versus watching it on television during this bout.)

    For me, Escalera swept the three championship rounds on hard charging aggression. If the scoring was not fixed, then I have to assume that the ringside officials must have been disproportionately swayed by the sight of blood.

    What's interesting is that you gave round 12 to Escalera, where I gave it to Everett, and you awarded round ten to Escalera, a round I had even. You also had round nine even, a round I gave to Everett. If we were to combine our two cards in a way favorable to Escalera, it still comes out Everett 144-143 Escalera.