Fights you scored differently than most people

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  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not my own view but I once had a conversation with a guy who scored Muhammad Ali as the winner in the first Joe Frazier fight and he had Frazier winning the second one ! Each to their own I suppose.
     
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  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes - Spinks I: scored for Holmes by a point
    Csstillo-Mayweather II: scored for Castillo by 2 points
    Holyfield-Lewis II: scored for Holyfield by a point
    Toney vs Thadzi: scored for Toney by 2 points
     
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  3. Thread Stealer

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    Calzaghe-Hopkins and Mosley-De La Hoya 2 are two cases where I really think people make too much of Compubox. It always should be looked at as a basic tool subject to human error, nothing more and nothing less, but especially so in fights like this when people use it as "evidence" that a guy clearly won.

    Hopkins landed the cleaner shots throughout the fight to me. Hopkins also was absolutely shameless in his flopping, he gets no sympathy from me for losing, but it was a close fight regardless of what Compubox says. De La Hoya-Mosley 2 was a close fight with a lot of close rounds regardless of what Jim Lampley and Compubox says. Mosley was starting to have success slipping Oscar's jab after a few rounds, and a lot of punches on both sides were missing, but the narrative was that Oscar somehow was dominating until round 9.

    I scored Mayweather-Castillo 1 for Floyd, I thought Castillo just took way too long to get going and lost too many rounds before he started having success. It wasn't that he was being dominated in the first 4-5 rounds, he was just doing less than Floyd. People trying to use Compubox as "proof" that Castillo won is just nonsense. But looking back, I kind of wished Floyd had lost. I think caring so much about his "0" caused him to play the risk/reward factor too much later on.
     
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  4. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I watched the rematch closely, after the first 5, Holmes was throwing a lot, but not landing and seemed to be getting a lot more tired while Spinks stayed calm and was landing the cleaner punches.
     
  5. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I had Horn beating Pacquaio and Mayweather winning the first Castillo fight.
     
  6. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I
     
  7. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    7-5 bhop and 7-5 mosley for me
     
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  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Mayweather beating Castillo is actually a majority view.
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I thought Calzaghe blew Hopkins out of the water. Not even close. A great pressure artist using volume to dominate a fight, forcing the wiley vet to be a b*th and look for a way out.
     
  10. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    holmes had him out on his feet in the later rounds.Honestly, I do not know what fight you were watching, Holmes won that one cleanly.
     
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  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who says?
     
  12. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    A lot of people tend to opine that Witherspoon was jobbed or unlucky against Holmes. I've scored that fight a couple of times, and on both occasions I had Larry winning by a couple of rounds. Honestly can't make a case for 'Spoon there, but I'm guessing that puts me in a minority?

    On the other hand, people seem to be pretty quiet on the decision Holmes got against Williams, and it seems most people think Larry just about pulled that one out - but not me. For my money, if Holmes did get a lucky or undeserved points win during his reign, it was in this fight, not against Witherspoon. I thought 'The Truth' won it by a couple of rounds or so, albeit it was close. Yet these days it doesn't seem that too many people agree with me.
     
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  13. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah there was very little actual clean punching in jones hopkins 2. Shame on hopkins for not just straight up fighting roy who wasnt even 20% of what he used to be. I like hopkins alot but his tendency to bull**** and con artistry even when he didnt need to was frustrating.
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Press row. The judges. People who don't believe Castillo won the rematch.
     
  15. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think I had it 9-3 Floyd
     
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