Filip Hrgović vs. Zhāng Zhìlěi II

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El Animal or Big Bang?

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  1. Hrgovićon points

    22.7%
  2. Hrgović by stoppage

    22.7%
  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Zhāng on points

    9.1%
  5. Zhāng by stoppage

    45.5%
  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I just got around to watching Zhāng vs. Joyce, and saw it a clean sweep for the Zhoukouian-New Jerseyite as of the stoppage. I could see maybe 49-46 with the third going to the Nigerian-Scottish descent Londoner on activity, but that's by a gossamer thread and there are no more shares to be had for him. Zhāng was perhaps on his way to a fuel depletion as they neared the midway point, but it was moot as that dialed-in left hand already had wrought enough pinpoint destruction on Joyce's zygomatic bone that a stoppage on cuts & swelling began to look inevitable before the bell to signal the start of the 6th round had even rung.

    Hrgović for his part is yet to compete again since locking horns with Zhāng last August in Jeddah, where both put their zeroes on the line in a mutually long overdue step up in class. That day the Croatian was favored by fortune, albeit via close & controversial decision where he was dropped early by a cuffing right hook (a borderline unintentional rabbit punch, but legal in the referee's eyes which is what counts). He was in talks for an IBF interim world title tilt with Andy Ruiz Jr. at the start of this year, with a purse bid ordered but then abandoned as the Mexican sought the (literally) greener pastures of a Deontay Wilder payday, leaving Hrgović in the lurch.

    Both men are now in the position of thumb-twiddling in hopes of hitting the Usyk sweepstakes, but Hrgović *(by dint of being the IBF mandatory) is third and Zhāng (the new WBO interim champ and thus also mandatory challenger) fourth in the current line of succession. First choice for the Ukrainian is, no secret, a unification with Tyson Fury that came tantalizingly close to completion only for negotiations to stall and ultimately fall apart last month. Next in the rotation if that blockbuster event isn't resuscitated soon would be Daniel Raphael Dubois, the WBA regular heavyweight champion.

    In the meantime, Hrgović and Zhāng are both facing the Buridian's ass dilemma of either growing rustier by the day when their eventual turn comes, or risking it all by remaining active. Taking one another on in a rematch would be the arch gamble, with the loser knocked completely off the rails of contention and the victor almost cementing his spot and perhaps even jumping to front of the line.

    Hrgović himself has called for the rematch (within the last 24 hours, in fact) despite being the beneficiary of an unpopular decision and the man with more to lose in a repeat engagement, and even called for it to happen in Beijing near year's end, boasting that he would love to knock Zhāng out in front of a billion Chinese fans. Zhāng however, has a possible rematch with Joyce opts to pull trigger on that prearranged clause - and has stated that his personal preference would be to fight Tyson Fury next.
     
  2. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still Hrgovic—probably more decisively without the rabbit/slip knockdown and mental state approaching Golota-Grant territory.

    Zhang with his low-output, calculated counterpunching style might be more comfortable if not less risky to fight against than Joyce's stifling, suffocating move forward pressure.

    Filip, akın to Klitschko, has that educated lead hand long guard and the sense of distance and pace management that comes with it. Zhang actually has to expand energy opening him up and that's where his stamina starts to be a glaring issue as in their first fight where Hrgovic was taking rounds based on sheer unanswered punch output, and not the kind Brits tried to give Joyce rounds for—he actually had educated angles and pries to land their Zhang's high guard.

    I hope Filip delivers and actually goes to Beijing to rematch Zhang.
     
  3. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He might still get caught in the big bang of course. No men is immune to that.
     
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  4. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would slightly favor Zhang, but anything is possible...
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Monster Wang Big Bang Zhang's right hook will make Filip's ears go clang clang after he gets his bell rang, when he wakes up, he'll say dang mang, when he sees 4 of Zhang looking like Kuomintang Krang.:sisi1
     
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  6. DoubleG95Fanatic

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  7. MAD_PIGE0N

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    If Zhang can go strong for at least 8 rounds, he might won a rematch. Otherwise it'll happen as in the previous fight most probably.
     
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  8. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Hrgovic sucks. He was lucky to get a decision last time. Zhang will be more aggressive this time rather than sitting back and countering.
     
  9. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Hrgovic outboxes him clearer UD this time.
     
  10. HercegBosnaBoks

    HercegBosnaBoks New Member Full Member

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    Hrgovic by decision or just dropping Zhang by shear attrition of the latter. Hrgovic can keep a somewhat safe distance with his 1,2s and fight of the back foot as he showed in their first fight. He proved to be able to take dozens of Zhangs finest punches, but then again, he looked near the end on several occasions. Very close 55/45 in Hrgovics advantage
     
  11. HercegBosnaBoks

    HercegBosnaBoks New Member Full Member

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    Good post!
     
  12. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    How did you score the first bout?
     
  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Really? You don’t have faith in your boy?
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I didn't, only seen highlights.

    Looking at the RBR here, Twitter, and online scorecard aggregator websites it seems the average fan had it 114-113 ZZ.
     
  15. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have but somehow I think that Zhang is all wrong for him...