Filipino Fighters influenced Modern Boxing pt 2

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by chimba, Nov 16, 2007.


  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Fist time I insinuated that fighters like Ali, RJJ, Sugar ray leonard was influenced by filipino fighting style because thats how filipinos fight due from is derivation from knife fighting...I got attcked viciously..

    Now there are many types of fighters out there...I am only stating that Ali style, RJJ style was indirectly influenced by filipino fighters...Mainly Flash Elorde...

    This started with the US navy stationed in Hawaii where many Filipno crop workers were based.. well its a long story but everyone was asking for proof...and I wont even use Wikepedia I have videos

    Finally I got a hold of some rare rare footage of filipno boxing and clips in the early 20'ss check the clip between 2:35 to 2:52 youd see some RJJ and Alis styles...

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    Now if someone can come up with a video proof pre 1920..I wish them luck
     
  2. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    stop with this **** chimba man filipinos didn't change the style ever heard of j corbet,jack johnson

    but good video ...
     
  3. Mistadobalina

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  4. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    :lol: STFU!!!!:rofl

    It is widely believed that the Mano Mano skills influenced
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    once Filipino immigrants moved to the USA. Until the arrival of Filipino boxers in the USA, American boxers used a "
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    " stance with arms stretched out with both fighters standing toe to toe exchanging blows. It is believed that the Filipino boxers were the first to use a more closed or tight guard with the bobbing and weaving motions that are common features in modern boxing style. The fact that Filipinos were well versed in weapons fighting, in particular knife fighting, is believed to be the reason behind Filipino fighters having tigher guards and the bobbing and weaving motions. The American boxers soon adopted the Filipino style, and this format changed the art of boxing worldwide to the one recognized today. Even though the Philippines produce many world class boxers in the lighter weight divisions, many still currently study their indigenous martial art.


    Idiot!
     
  5. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    dam chimba again witrh the WIKI huh:lol: :lol: :lol:

    lost your temper there if that what you think coo

    but it's not fact:D
     
  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Until they make a correction its fact...Yo Wiki is getting real tight man.. all **** facts are getting deleted

    **** Im supposed to take an ESB idiot over Wiki..you crazy???:lol: :lol: :nono
     
  7. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    LOL you got issues but i guess if i was philipino i would be pumping the propaganda machine aswell :rofl :rofl :rofl

    ALL power to ya :good
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    No need for propaganda PAcs #2 p4p:deal :good
     
  9. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    LOL i forgot but i have JC at #1 then pbf then pac but if pac beats JMM then he'll get #2
     
  10. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    :rofl youre a damn fool...beating that stiff Kessler doesnt have you skipping PAC???

    PAC #1 Joe #2:deal
     
  11. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :nut :nut :nut

    thats your opinion well have fun :hi:
     
  12. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    Philippines do have a rich history in boxing...
     
  13. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Nice vid, Chimba. Saw it on local TV once. This was around Pac-Morales 2, IIRC.

    Here's a 1921 fighter with the Muhammad Ali style. (only less graceful)
    Lateral movement, jabbing, one-twos and upper body movement in defense.

    George Carpentier
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4KAmq2aL1w

    I take back the "less graceful" part. Ive just seen the whole vid, and that Georgie boy is SLICK!
    Reminded me of Whitaker with some of his defensive tactics. Good power too for a thin guy.
     
  14. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Chimba, where has there been any sort of evidence to show that Ali learnt his style by directly mimicking this fighter. All i saw was a guy circling his opponents, something PLENTY of fighters do.

    Regardless, the information you originally quoted on Wikipedia isn't even aout the history of boxing, it is an article about pinoy martial arts. You are only reading what you want to read. Find me an objective article regarding the history and development of boxing and show me the parts where it states that Pinoy martial arts are the major influence. I expect an overall time line, showing other influences also and where it fits in.

    You summed yourself up to me as a poster, when you posted that the HIGHLY FICTIONAL movie Romper Stomper was what you based your opinion of Australia on:rofl:rofl:rofl

    And then confirmed it with your ******ed comments regarding the big bang, and the theory of evolution. :oops::oops::oops:

    You simply have no idea, and I really have very little time for the points you bring up.

    I think the Phillipines do have a good boxing history, and I have heard that the movements in their martial arts in the upper body did at some point influence modern boxing, but your biased and exaggerated comments are quite simply ridiculous.

    :deal