Filipinos pretty much invented Boxing as we know it!!!

chimba · Oct 24, 2007

dupe

bulakenyo · Oct 24, 2007

Chimba:

Gene Tunney was a fighter in the 1920s. He became world heavyweight champ in 1926, I think. He wasnt the greatest old school fighter, but he was slick and he was quick. He wasnt a particularly big heavyweight.

Im not disrespecting escrima and Elorde, man.

When the article said Elorde may have been the one who taught Ali the "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" style AKA arnis/kali/escrima, I remembered the article about Ali's interview as a younger man, when he said Tunney was one of his inspirations and where he got his boxing "blueprint".

If the Arnis article had said that Gene Tunney was heavily influenced by Filipino martial arts, and that his style was copied by Ali, which Ali really did say in an interview, it would have sounded more credible for me. Just me.

Again, I'm not degrading Flash Elorde here.

chimba · Oct 24, 2007

theunderdog said:

i don't try to appease non-filipinos. i couldn't care less if they side with me or not. you posted a fact, true. but then you admitted to have exagerrated. i mocked your title because it was stupid. you should have thought of it before you posted it. and the excuse that you deliberately exaggerated to get more replies was stupid.

having three replies in a smart thread is worth much more than having 100 replies in a stupid thread. quality over quantity brother. you could have shown us all your knowledge about how filipinos affect boxing as it is today but then you had to start with that crazy title which turned many posters away thinking that "ow ****, just another crazy thread from filipino posters". you had a real chance to tell them that filipinos have influenced boxing which was great but you blew it because you wanted more replies.

many filipinos are being treated like **** in this site. after a stupid post by a 1 stupid filipino poster, some guy would say "all you people are stupid" and it's people who exaggerate like what yiou just did cause this. what's the difference with what to you said to pacdbest saying that pacquiao would ko pbf at 145? they're both exaggerated statements and they rub off badly. people here think taht all filipinos think like that. i repeat, i do not care less how non-filipinos think of me. i do care about how they see us as a people. there are many good filipino posters in this site, guyslike bulakenyo etc are great people with knowledge about boxing but sadly the loud ones are getting all the attention.

i know you meant well chimba. pinoy tayong lahat pare. i understand what you are trying to do and i applaud the fact that you try to tell everyone how great our nation is. but please asses before you drop a thread like this. filipino posters are getting less and less respect out here because of the pac nuthugging. it's perfectly fine to be proud of what we have, i am and i'm sure you are too. but please be more careful next time. we're walking on thin ice here. little slip ups lead to disastrous generalizations about our whole nation. i feel that somehow, we are representing our country here and the the least we could do is represent well.

if i have offended you in anyway, my apologies, i should have presented it in a more gentlemanly way. again my apologies. i know you get my drift chimba. i know you understand what i just said.
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Were cool Undie..always been ...its the heat of the moment thing... forget it ...lets start a new argument... How bout Floyd vs. PAC at 135

BTW..I saw Shangri la resort..Is this suppose to be better or equal to Plantation Bay

bandeedo · Oct 24, 2007

theunderdog said:

thing is, you could say chimba that filipinos were doing boxing-like activities very early in their history and i'll believe that wholeheartedly. but if you put some time thinking about it, you'd realize that there are many civilizations older than filipinos. egyptian, greek and chinese to name a few. don't you think that they didnot engage in activities similar to boxing in those times? bro, think about it. the greeks pride themselves as the inventors of the olympic games, it is clear that they have engaged in competitions that test the person's physical capabilities and boxing-like games are one of them

i know you are proud that the philippines also has its own page in the development and history of boxing. but to say that filipinos invented it is a tad too much. think about what i'm saying.

and by the way, please don't challenge my being a filipino. i'm more filipino than you'll ever be chimba. where are you located again?
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god bless you underdog, you are proof that not all pinoys suffer from an inferiority complex. so much so that they exagerate everything and sometimes straight up lie to make themselves feel adequate.

Dekkers · Oct 24, 2007

theunderdog said:

invented boxing? what's next?
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Relentless · Oct 24, 2007

filipinos are just chinese wannabes.

chimba · Oct 24, 2007

bandeedo said:

god bless you underdog, you are proof that not all pinoys suffer from an inferiority complex. so much so that they exagerate everything and sometimes straight up lie to make themselves feel adequate.
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Here it is again ..Wikepedia... I just cut and pasted it..dont blame me:deal

It is widely believed that the Mano Mano skills influenced
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once Filipino immigrants moved to the USA. Until the arrival of Filipino boxers in the USA, American boxers used a "
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" stance with arms stretched out with both fighters standing toe to toe exchanging blows. It is believed that the Filipino boxers were the first to use a more closed or tight guard with the bobbing and weaving motions that are common features in modern boxing style. The fact that Filipinos were well versed in weapons fighting, in particular knife fighting, is believed to be the reason behind Filipino fighters having tigher guards and the bobbing and weaving motions. The American boxers soon adopted the Filipino style, and this format changed the art of boxing worldwide to the one recognized today. Even though the Philippines produce many world class boxers in the lighter weight divisions, many still currently study their indigenous martial art.

ravtrav · Oct 24, 2007

Pac by KO:huh

boxbox · Oct 24, 2007

Relentless said:

filipinos are just chinese wannabes.
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no need, its already running in most peoples blood.. Lots of chinese migrated in the Philippines centuries ago...and man they spread so fast!:yikes

chimba · Oct 24, 2007

boxbox said:

no need, its already running in most peoples blood.. Lots of chinese migrated in the Philippines centuries ago...and man they spread so fast!:yikes
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Which is a good thing dont you think?

boxbox · Oct 24, 2007

chimba said:

Which is a good thing dont you think?
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it has its pros and cons:good

chimba · Oct 24, 2007

boxbox said:

it has its pros and cons:good
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When they take over we can always say "Hey we're chinese"

MSTR · Oct 24, 2007

Chimba, after everything I explained about why that was not fact, or accurate, you still don't seem to have taken anything on board. Ignorance is bliss I guess. In my eyes you have lost a great amount of credibility by not only creating this thread, but by continuing it.

chimba · Oct 24, 2007

MSTR said:

Chimba, after everything I explained about why that was not fact, or accurate, you still don't seem to have taken anything on board. Ignorance is bliss I guess. In my eyes you have lost a great amount of credibility by not only creating this thread, but by continuing it.
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As long as I have Wikepedia behind me ..I'll keep on treading:good Me losing credibility?? :rofl Ask the KG, Sues, Brooklyn. Sweet Pea, .those are pretty well respected guys..they are tops... Id say:smoke

tays001 · Oct 24, 2007

YOu truly are a stupid **** chimba THE philpinos did not invent boxing you are a ****ing ****** . like this is thee dumbest thread ever made shut this **** up b4 you get hit put on you by THE ESB MOB.

DNT ever write crap like this again or you will lose esb's little respect that the y have for you

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