Filippino flyweight Pancho Villa. How good was he?

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  1. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Untill yesterday I never heard his name before nor did I ever noticed someone mentioning him here at esb (especially now during Pacquiao's ''reign'' you would expect his name to be brought up somewhere).
    Found out about him yesterday when I was going through ''A pictorial history of boxing''.
    He was once, too, considered to be "the greatest Asian fighter in boxing history". Guy had 109 fights before he died at 23.

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    My first post ever in the classic forum I guess. But I think it's worth mentioning this guy.
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Very great fighter, im not the most knowledgeable on him but he was a very good guy i seem to remember reading an article saying he wasnt dissimaliar to Pacquaio in style
     
  3. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He destory Wilde, that fight was not even close imo.

    That was about other Dempsey Willard kinda of fight imo.
     
  4. bodhi

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    Until Pac the greatest and best Pinoy fighter and perhaps the best Asian fighter - also I think Masahiko Fighting Harada has a shot too. I think that says enough.

    He was getting mentioned in Pacquiao-discussions quite often as far as I remember but most of the time the guy who threw him in got ignored. Most people, and especially pinoys, just don't know him which is a shame.
     
  5. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gpater and bodhi nailed it for me - I have the Pancho Villa-Jimmy Wilde fight and when you watch him he looks uncannily similar to Pacquiao when he starts trading punches - that was the first thing that sprung to mind - a vicious brutal puncher and the recording of it that i have looks to be at the correct speed judging by the movement of the referee and Villa still looks speeded up - he is that fast - he did look as though he was getting hammered a bit in the 1st round against Wilde, almost thought Wilde might stop him - but then again Wilde was a legendary puncher and Villa he took his lumps from a much bigger looking man (and then exploded back with a vicious hook) he actually then made Wilde touch down with his gloves for a millisecond. He seemed to like using a cross-arm defence when on the receiving end from Wilde - on the outside he did look a little open to the jab though - although on film Jimmy Wilde looks to have a very very good jab so it might be more that Wilde jab was brilliant rather than Villa being open to it - looks like as the fight went on Villa's youth and vitality weren't going to be denied and when then end came Villa had no mercy - Wilde crashed sickeningly face-first as though shot from an incessant barrage.

    the other film i have of Pancho Villa was against Johnny Buff - who as the bigger man (but still insanely) looked as though he banked everything on slugging it out with Villa come what may - and predictably he was swiftly out gunned until the towel came flying in - wish i had more footage of him because he really looked dynamic (definately wouldn't have looked out of place in the modern ring) - does anyone know if there's any other footage of him out there??
     
  6. Ted Spoon

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    He was adored by the Americans with his mix of child-like charm and that fiery conduct inside the ring.

    Villa was extremely durable and tremendously active, averaging out about 20 fights a year, most of which were good old 15 round affairs were he swatted at his unfortunate opponent with rapid aggression. The cross-armed defence worked particularly well for his shortness hid him inside a little, bronze shell.

    When Villa got his moment of glory against Wilde the big shot at the end of the second played a big part, but it was likely his night regardless. As is the case with Darcy, it's a real shame his ferrari-like lifestyle crashed so early on.