Film Of The Langford v Hague Fight Question?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I once mistakenly believed I had seen this fight in a collection called Classic Films converted to video from Super 8mm.
    What it actually was is the Langford v Lang fight.
    I made a thread here and admitted my mistake.
    There is no surviving footage of the Langford v Hague fight and hasn't been for over half a century.
    Despite this a poster here, Mendoza still claims to have seen it,as he is in his 30's this is impossible.
    I now have a question for him.
    Just prior to the fight starting ,with both boxers in their corners,a famous fighter was introduced into the ring ,as is the custom he went to both corners ,and wished the boxers good luck.
    My question for Mendoza is this , who was that famous boxer? Another thing happened just prior to the fight starting ,Langford did something what was it?
    If he has seen the fight he must know the answers and be able to tell us.:think
     
  2. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You realise he'll be frantically googling?!?
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    :rofl:lol::good
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No response from Mendoza ,though he has been active here today.:huh:lol:
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Still no answers from Mendoza? What a surprise!:lol:
     
  6. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :pop
     
  7. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    maybe Mendoza made a mistake too?

    (or maybe he stretched the truth believing there would be no way to confirm or deny it)

    Is this what happened Mendoza?

    Come clean and admit it if you made a mistake and we here at the forum will all give you respect and safe future passage,,,,,,

    Try to evade this question not addressing it clearly and I will personally find you, kidnap you and force you to fight mcvey on the 28th of this month in New York :hey
     
  8. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is this considered cyber bullying? even if the answer is no I still feel like it is lol
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    A number of times you have been corrected here are numerous.

    A few examples by myself alone

    1 ) You denied that Jeffries older manager Delaney was in Jack Johnson for the 1910 Reno fight for years. Once I showed it to you, it was the typical so what, I was wrong.

    2 ) You denied Johnson ever signed to fight Langford. In fact, you called me out to produce a concrete example of any promoter offering Johnson a fight with Langford, Jeannette, and McVey backed by money. Not only did I show you an article that says Johnson signed to fight Langford in 1909, he backed out of the fight!

    3 ) You denied that Jeffries won more than one round vs Johnson. Then I show you fight reports, and the air out of damaged tire becomes flat again.


    It seems like you prefer to call people out on unknown facts, and just hope it's not on the web. Hope is not a strategy! And if this is all you have to go on to try to get back at me, it's very weak and lame. Anyone can play that lame game. It proves nothing. You rely way too much on books. I research and watch. There is a difference.

    In this case, your asking for someone to show you the film. There is no way for you to prove what a person has or has not seen, and unlike yourself, I'm familiar enough with the fighters to identify them on film. I do not own this film, but one day it just might find its way on youtube.

    Two rounds were shown. The ending is an epic level knockout with Hauge being completely down and out in a corner. I know this because I have seen it. I've never seen such a photo on the web and the box rec report won;t tell you details on the ending.

    Years back I voiced that Langford vs Jennette was out there. Klompton, because he had the film would not confirm or deny it. If memory serves there was only one or two other poster who said they saw it too. Guess what happened, the film made its way to youtube. One day Langford vs Hauge might be there too. Then you be wrong again for the nth time.

    Several posters here, including Ted Spoon, said they have seen this film. Film collectors often are bound not to report on what they traded for and often ahem, mislead others to cover your tracks. You likely don't know much about that because it has been proven here you don't watch many films, and when you do, sometimes don't even know what you are watching!

    Langford vs Lang is easy to identify. The fact that you felt this was the Hauge fight underscores your lack of knowledge on fight films

    First off, there more action show and round cards are in the Langford vs Lang film, Langford vs Hauge only shows 2 round of 4. Secondly, Lang and Hague have different builds. You failed to recognize that as well. Sam wears the pillow like gloves in the Lang fight, and Lang was not put cold he was only floored. Hauge was laid out like a fish on a matt.

    PS We have been over this before. You just want to post it because you get your @ss handed to you. I might as well save this post and re-copy it when you feel the need to create this thread or ask the same quesitons for the the 10th time.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    It's called getting to the truth.I imagine we all like to hear that? No one compels anyone to tell lies , but it is a compulsion for some people to do so..
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    One thing Mcvey and I agree on is you're a Pri@kly type of person who has issues with people here, and on other boards.

    A quick joke. What's the difference between a Corvette and a cactus? With the Cactus, the pri@ks are on the outside.

    I view you pragmatically here because unlike Mcvey, you can be a good poster. But since the Pri@ks are out in this thread, I'll have a bit of fun.

    Do you still deny I have your fight list:) I'll offer it to anyone who PM's me if I choose. Not to stroke your ego too much it's an impressive list and backed with some commentary. Sorry if this spills the beans on what you do and do not own.

    PS: Did you get the Tony Fosco collection? :) Please tell us here how your bid went. Otherwise, Mcvey might call you a liar as he needs proof of the unkown, at least in his small mind. The Fosco collection was loaded with rare stuff, including a Ray Armstrong fight no one ever heard of.
     
  12. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bruh :rofl lifes inner tube
     
  13. BeerGut

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    Who is Ray Armstrong?
     
  14. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    if anyone takes it too seriously I guess it would be :smoke
     
  15. mcvey

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    !1. I questioned it I did not deny it for years, or even days. Heres a quote from Delaney concerning the fight .

    " For years Jeffries has been afraid of Johnson ,and he has never gotten over that feeling.
    Some seven years ago Johnson was dogging the footsteps of Jeffries for a fight,but he never got the chance.
    I had to take all the blame and act as the bunper.
    Jeffries told me that he didn't want to fight Johnson,and while he ddi not admit it in so many words,I knew he was afraid.
    After Johnson beat Jeffries brother Jack ,he came to me and pleaded for a fight I told him that Jeffries didn't want to fight him,andhe said to go and tell Jeffries that he[Johnson] , had licked Jack and that he could lick Jim" .

    2.I did not deny that Johnson ever signed to fight Langford Clay Moyle and I had a debate about it on this forum,He signed to fight him for the NSC in London for £3000, just prior to travelling to Australia to challenge Burns for the title,once he won the title he announced his purse for defending it was $30,000,the same as Burns had received for defending against himself.

    He wrote an article in the newspapers explaining his position and both Pollack and Moyle include it in their books on Johnson and Langford. I asked you to produce a verified offer of $30,000 for Johnson to defend his title against either Langford ,McVey ,or Jeannette that he refused to accept.
    We know he accepted the offer from McIntosh to defend against Langford and McVey in Australia for, we know that McIntosh withdrew the offer when Johnsonwas arraigned on abduction charges and we know that McIntosh wrote an article about it in the newspapers,we know because;
    I POSTED ALL THE RELEVANT INFORMATION JUST LAST WEEK!

    3.You stated that had the Johnson v Jeffries fight finished after 10 rds it would, "likely have been a draw",that is absurd. Jeffries took only the 4th rd on all reporters cards.


    4.I started collecting fight films on Super 8mm in the 1960's, 20 years before you were born!
    I gave the Langford v Lang fight to a friend years ago ,it was part of a compilation entitled Ring Classics.
    I know what Bill Lang looks like and also Hague [not Hauge]
    Langford did not wear pillow like gloves for the Lang fight , both he and Lang wore white gloves.

    Hague was not knocked out in a corner he was near ring center and his seconds ,assisted by Langford ,carried him back to his own corner I am looking at a photo of the KO as I type this.

    Lang finished the Langford fight on his feet,Langford ,trying to finish him missed a big swing and went to the floor, Lang struck him on the head and was dsq'd!

    And you say I don't now what I'm watching?:patsch:lol:

    No amount of obfuscation on your part will change the fact that you do not know the answers to my two questions,and if you had seen the fight you would have been able to tell us.

    No other poster claims to have seen this fight.
    Just yourself, and you are lying.