Film study that proves Foreman`s KO over Moorer was not a lucky punch

He set him up perfectly. It was such a well planned, tight shot.

It remains one of the most career-making wins of any boxer's career. Foreman went from being considered a proto-Tyson bully to champion of the world at middle age.

I want to mention how I noticed that before the Moorer fight Joe Frazier was much more often placed above George on ATG lists.

 

Foreman was very good at setting his punches up especially in his second career for how slow he was.

In the Cooney fight right at the ending, there's a great example where he slips Cooneys jab and counters with a right, then does the same right after with a left hook added that looks similar to the ending punch, he then throws the right as a lead with the hook and really connects on Cooney. And then in the final sequence he walks in and abandons the right he had been throwing at Cooney first the last few times and steps in with that left. He was a smart guy in there and when he picked up on something he picked up on it quick.

Timestamped

This content is protected

 

Atlas : Don't stand up in front of foreman

 

Yep. There are no lucky punches in boxing.

 

Jesus Christ! Steve, do you spend all your time on YouTube trying to find obscure detailed film analysis and breakdowns on every single thing that happens in boxing? Foreman saw an opening and threw the right hand. That’s it. No scientific analysis needed. I swear you will be posting scientific film studies of fighters sitting down in their corners in between rounds next and saying scientific analysis showed that the angle he sat down and the force that he used to sit down meant that he would score the knockout in the next round!

 

Foreman hit so heavy...he knew that even a short, well timed connection would end it. He was just too old to have done it sooner. Back in the 70s I think Moorer would have been out of there in a couple of rounds.

 

Though I agree with on the overanalysis point (as in there's a lot of overanalysis on the web in general not just here), I found some merit in the video and learned something.

 

A lapse of concentration usually by a better, but over confident opponent. But the Shot Foreman landed on Moorer was set up well, Foreman Foreman "Saw Something ". As M.Scmeling once said.

 

There are NO lucky punches in boxing. Maybe some are more welcome at the moments when they come

 

I wasnt aware anyone thought it was a lucky punch

 

I never thought it was a lucky punch. Foreman did everything right preceding that punch...he was smart as a fox in his timing...executing that 1-2,...
He was as cool, deliberate and measured as Joe Louis or Archie ever were in their careers.

 

I'm certain of it . Would have been two rounds Max !

 

George was just inching closer to that ko shot.Hed caught him a few times in the fight much the same but by the Tenth ,MM was feeling the pressure from the onwards rolling human tank !

 

Oh well. Here goes. I just dont see how that was a devastating punch. Every time I see it I fail to see how it could knock out a top level fighter, even one like Moorer whose chin was his achilles heel.

I know that George was devastating and all that but there seems to be no shifting of his feet, he doesn't turn his hip into it, no snapping of the elbow or shoulder, no pushing down on the front foot or bending of the lead knee. It's just an arm punch from a stationary stance.

George had very strong arms but no hw champ should be knocked out by an arm punch. Hurt? Yes. Stunned? Yes. But out for the count?

I expect responses along the lines of 'an arm punch from Foreman was as devastating as a huge right from another heavyweight' but the evidence for this is a bit sparse in career no 2. Fighters like Morrison, Schulz, Stewart (none renowned for their chins) all took his bombs and went the distance. In fact even young George was never a one shot kayo artist. This ending is a bit of an anomaly. George knocked plenty of guys down but there weren't that many one punch kayoes and the ones I remember (C00ney, Rodrigues) at least looked far more devastating with snap and pivoting of the hips, snap of shoulders etc. All the ingredients of a real knockout blow.

Anyway, that's my view and, as I am in a minority of one, I may have to eat humble pie and accept I'm wrong. Flying in the fce of public opinion usually means that. After all, if you wake up and meet an arsehole, you may have met an arsehole but if you meet arseholes all day, you're probably an arsehole.